Zone 5 Rose Gardeners "What's Your Favorite Rose'?
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Comments (3)Thanks for your posts! Kate - I had actually looked at Mortimer Sackler but HMF and several other sources had him listed as Z6b and I'm Z5a so I didn't think he would work here. Sure is a beautiful looking rose though! Morden Man - Disappointing to hear that about Abraham Darby and Cornelia. Does either grow vigorously enough to climb back up an 8 ft trellis in the course of a season, even with some dieback? Out of curiosity, is it true Abe Darby is 'nearly thornless' (doesn't look it in photos I've seen, but gosh the blooms are beautiful). Also, I have the same question about Golden Celebration? Lots of thorns or dieback? Also, do you think John Clare or Jacques Cartier could be used for a rose hedge up against my house (w/ direct western exposure)? Would one thrive better than the other in prolonged direct heat? How do they compare in terms of rebloom? Both of them looked gorgeous in the photos I pulled up. For the thorns on Jacques, would you say he's as thorny as a knockout? (Just trying to get a comparison since I think my knockouts have absolute claws, but I guess someone else could think they are fairly tame depending on the varieties they grow.) Would Heritage or Reine des Violettes work for a reblooming rose hedge? Thanks again for the input!...See MoreYour 5 favorite Tea class roses.
Comments (24)I tallied up all the favorite Teas listed here on this thread. Here are the results so far. 6 votes -- Lady Hillingdon 5 votes -- Duchesse de Brabant Etoille de Lyon 4 votes-- G. Nabonnand 3 votes -- Clementina Carbonieri Francis Dubreuil Le Pactole Le Vesuve Mme. Berkeley Mrs Dudley Cross Mrs. B.R. Cant 2 votes -- Devoniensis Marie Van Houtte Mme Joseph Schwartz Mons Tillier Rosette Delizy William R. Smith Honorable Mention  every Tea on earth! Alliance Franco-Russe Angels Camp Tea Anna Olivier Cels Multiflora Comtesse Emmeline de Guigne Georgetown Tea Ley's Perpetual Madame Antoine Mari Madame Antoine Rebe Madame Lombard Marie d'Orleans Miss Atwood Mlle. de Sombreuil Niles Cochet Puerto Rico Safrano Souv. de Pierre Notting Souv.de Claudious Denoyal Susan Louise brought to you by Karen, a rose newbie who is learning!! (using my sonÂs gardenweb name)...See Morefavorite roses that survive in your garden
Comments (28)I finally uncovered all my roses this morning and it seems like most of them have a fair amount of green canes. Iceberg was the only one to have a bit of mold on a couple of canes. Should these canes be cut off now, or will they be ok now that the air and sunlight can get to them? Gillian, I re-read your post on which teas you had that were hardy, and you mentioned that Tropicana was one of them. Walmart has them in bags now, and it's mighty tempting. How did you like it, and do you have a pic maybe? Carol, have you been able to check your roses out yet? Hopefully it's all good news. Laurie...See MoreYour favorite roses & make roses more winter-hardy
Comments (37)Joey: Very good questions. Here are what I learn about own-root roses: 1) Where they are bred and the TYPE OF SOIL & weather predicts where they will be successful. Roses bred in acidic & rainy & less sun England will be successful in acidic & high rain East coast. But roses bred in alkaline & hot & sunny Southern France will be successful in alkaline clay & sunny garden. 2) How vigorous the root is? The newly bred roses ARE VERY VIGOROUS as own-roots, and can survive BOTH Pakistan 113 F hot summer and my zone 5a winter of -20 below zero. Vigorous roots are both long (at least 2 feet deep) and spreading wide. Vigorous roots are also THICK to store water in dry summer/winter. Dee-lish can die to the crown, but the root is so deep that it can go for 1 month without watering, either through a cold & dry winter or hot summer. Dee-lish has a climber as a parent (Graham Thomas). If a rose is bred with a climber in its genetics, it will have deeper root. 3) It's the selection of the fittest. In breeding roses, there will be many seeds ... and only the fittest seed sprout up to be the most vigorous root or to be disease-resistant. The other dozen to 100 seeds either don't germinate, or sprout some wimpy plants that black-spot & less petals, or can only bloom once a year. This answer your question directly, breed roses in your cold zone and see which seed can sprout in extreme cold temp., and which seed has the deepest root to survive the winter. English roses, bred in a colder climate than France: most have climber-heritage or Old Garden Roses' genetics, and English roses are actually favored by hot climate folks in Pakistan due to the vigor of their roots. Deeper root = more weather resistant. I hang out in Facebook Fragrant Rose Lovers group, where most Pakistan posters are. English roses are favored in both extreme hot and extreme cold climate due to the toughness of their roots to survive long periods of drought....See Moreallaboutrosegardening
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