Kohler Whitehaven Sink - 33 or 36"?
Melissa Silva
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Comments (5)I don't have it yet but I am getting the Kohler Whitehaven 36" single bowl sink. I am getting the one with the shorter apron front, but it still has the 9" depth. I wanted an apron front sink and chose the Whitehaven for the reasons your KD stated. There have been threads on this forum about fireclay sinks and some problems that may occur that the Whitehaven enameled cast iron sink won't have. Mostly, a more difficult installation due to the irregularity of handmade fireclay sinks like the Rohl (the irregularity is also part of the Rohl's charm at the same time!), and reports of crazing over time, particularly around the drain. If you are getting a disposal, a fireclay sink needs an extended flange - not a big deal, but kinda one more thing extra that you won't have to do with the Whitehaven sink. I agree that the Rohl fireclay sinks are gorgeous, but it's such a permanent part of the kitchen, that I didn't want to worry about the risks. Having said that, because the sink is such a permanent part of the kitchen that you will use every day, if you love the fireclay sink, let your KD know, cause you should get what you love. I am linking a thread below about fireclay sinks, plus a nice video from Kohler on the Whitehaven. Regarding your other question about a 2nd sink. My kitchen will not have a 2nd sink, but if it did, I would get a Blanco Silgranit sink as my prep sink. I had a Silgranit sink in my last kitchen and I loved it. The only reason I am not getting it again is because I wanted an apron front sink and Silgranit does not come in apron front. The Silgranit was so easy care, it was amazing. I hated the stainless sinks I've had in the past which scratched, showed water marks and never looked clean. If you get a Silgranit prep sink in white or biscuit (a creamier white), it will go with your main sink. Blanco will mail you color chips if you phone them and ask. Alternatively, you could get a matching enameled cast iron sink as your prep sink. GW Thread about Fireclay Sinks Kohler Video about the Whitehaven Sinks This post was edited by Sahmmy on Wed, Oct 22, 14 at 8:46...See MoreKohler Whitehaven 30" or 36"? Paint color?
Comments (35)mount, yes, I do feel the same way about ranges as well. My feeling is that, esp. with things with moving parts, you want to go as simple as possible because the more moving parts something has, the more there is to break. Simplicity is always better, IMO, when it comes to appliances. I could be completely wrong about this, but my instincts tell me that the industrial/professional types of ranges everyone seems to "need' at a cost of $10,000, or more, are probably made very, very differently for residential customers than they are for restaurants and other commercial entities. IMO, they are an enormous waste of money and are about ego and narcissism rather than about anything practical (spend $2K on a good GE Profile range and give the $8K you'd save from buying a Viking range to a charity if you have that much to spend on a stove!). In addition, those professional ranges, the real ones, are powerful, and they are because cooking in restaurants is very different than cooking at home. They have to cook very fast and large quantities, so they need a lot of heat. That is NOT the case at home, and so many of my clients have those ranges and they are TOO hot and difficult to control. In addition, most who have them barely cook and cook mac and cheese with hot dogs for their kids. That can easily be done on a regular oven! But mostly I suspect they're not made nearly like the actual professional/industrial ranges and are in fact a big waste of money. That said, you certainly don't want an eyesore for a range. I got a hand-me down from a friend who restores old homes and gave me a GE profile he pulled out of a house in Cambridge, MA. I love it. And I got lucky in that it was black with SS. My dishwasher is black, my sink is SS, and my fridge is black handle with SS door fronts, black surround. So the GE was perfect. However, ultimately, I think what you should care about with appliances is the quality and reliabilityâ¦which I also think has become very difficult to achieve. I was away today. I"ll take a pic tomorrow. Promise....See MoreWhitehaven Kohler sink and base size
Comments (11)That was some of my concern...our dishwasher is going to the left of the sink. It will be a panel dishwasher. Was concerned there should be more cabinet meat showing. But is seems the consensus here is that it should be OK. I think the panel on the dishwasher will make it seem less apparent. The whitehaven is like a "mock" farmhouse sink in that the front has a self trimming feature, so the actual cut in the cabinet will be an inch from the side, and than the front covers up almost the entire front (33 inch cabinet covered by 32 11/16" apron front). It is not like the Rohl. Using the 33" sink in a 33" cabinet makes the support inside easier to install. Using a small sink one would need to build out the sides more so they fall under the sink. Below is a picture I found on Houzz showing the dishwasher next to a similar set up using overlay doors. Mine are inset....See MoreVigo matte stone sink VS kohler cast iron whitehaven
Comments (22)@cpartist How do you like the DXV Hillside? Any pros/cons with it? Anyone else have one? We were originally considering the 36" Shaw farmhouse sink but the salesman said they all end up crazing over time. He said that Shaw makes their sinks they same way they did 100 years ago and it takes 3 days to dry. In those 3 days the sink settles and thats why the bottom can not consistently drain towards the drain (thus puddling) and that the settling enables the crazing to happen over time. He showed us several sinks like the Franke and Home Refinements Julien but those two were too modern for our kitchen (thinner walls). He said if you're going for a really worn in kitchen with lots of character in a 100 year old house, then those crazing spider webs on the Shaw won't matter. Our house is built in the 1930's with white inset shaker cabinets but I still don't want to look at cracks in my sink. The Hillside has almost the same dimensions and thicker walls like the Shaw. He said they poke a hole in the bottom front in the drying process and all the liquid fireclay pours out and leaves a shell of a sink. That leaves the sink sounding a bit more hollow when you knock on it, but also allows it to dry in one day so that it retains its shape. The water will drain toward the drain and the sizes don't vary like the Shaw (+/- 2%). I'm worried if something went wrong with the Shaw and we had to replace it, that it wouldn't fit exactly in the original cutout for the sink. I'm not too aware of the DXV brand though. Any good?...See MoreMelissa Silva
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