Contractor messed up shower pan. Fixable?
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okay for curbless shower to use a shower pan with regular drain?
Comments (8)With a curbless shower, I see two issues you may be facing. If he is planning on using a traditional rubber liner, a pre-slope under the liner is required. This slope is a minimum if 1/4" per foot from the drain to the farthest wall. In this case, I assume that to be the entry. I fugure that to be about 2 3/4" higher at the entry than at the drain. The rubber or vinyl liner sits on this and a FINAL mudbed is then formed over the liner. As you can see, there will be issues with no curb and how you'll terminate the slope to a feather edge at the entry. I don't see how that can be done. The other issue is with the liner itself. I see no way to attach it to a mudbed that would have to end at a feather edge. These liners are designed to go UP the vertical walls about 6-8" and nailed into place. Having built these before, scrap the liner and use the Kerdi. It's a bulletproof install, you only need ONE mudbed as the material is bonded directly to the mud and you can generally extend the Kerdi six or eight inches into the bathroom for a bit more insurance. On one hand, yes...it's a bit more cost, but realistically, it's also a shower you'll probably never need to repair or replace. The Kerdi is under $1.40 sq/ft. Their drain will run about a hundred bucks. On the other hand, you only have the cost of one mudbed, you eleminate the vinyl liner, as Kerdi is completely waterproof, you can save by using standard drywall in the shower as opposed to cement board. This is what Schluter recommends. Bottom line is that you'll pay a little more but get a far superior shower. If your tile installer isn't comfortable or familiar with Kerdi, find one that is. Here is a link that might be useful: Kerdi Shower Handbook...See MoreFraming Phase and Shower Mud Pan is not lining up with the 2x4
Comments (11)I'd cut out the concrete on the left and infill under bottom sole plate on the right. Since the bottom plate is floating, if it's a simple partition wall, I'd add a couple of blocks underneath for better support prior to infilling. If it's load bearing, I'd add proper support. If your shower will have a surface applied membrane on the floor and walls, that'll provide increased protection for the framing regardless of any blocking repairs that are made under the bottom plate....See MoreBathroom Drippage-Who Messed Up Here?
Comments (14)Bathroom ventilation serves a number of purposes, one of which is to exhaust moisture-laden air. You have a large shower with two shower heads which has the potential to pump a lot of moisture into the air. How much ventilation does your bathroom need? You can consult the guidelines of the Home Ventilation Institute https://www.hvi.org/resources/publications/home-ventilation-guide-articles/how-much-ventilation-do-i-need/ I think you'll find your problem will be solved by installing an appropriately-sized vent fan directly above the shower, ensuring the door undercut is adequate as RES advised and running the vent fan whenever the shower is turned on and for at least 20 minutes afterwards (I'm paranoid about mildew so I run mine for a lot longer.) With respect to your question about who is responsible, your builder should construct your addition substantially as per the plans and specifications included in your contract. Have a look and see what they show for the make/model and location of a vent fan. As for repainting the bathroom, condensation on surfaces is not under your builder's control and is not considered a warrantable condition in NAHB's Residential Construction Performance Guidelines....See Morecontractors installed an alcove shower pan in corner
Comments (26)"with all your legal knowledge, you trying to tell me if this contractor tells me to go pound sand not to mention he already breached the contract because he promised A and delivered B... and now I need to hire a new contractor to rip everything out and install the right pan and I take the previous contractor (if he licensed and legit) to court with all the documentation and everything I had to spend additionally to make it right I will not recoup my money? I will get everything back in a heart beat." Yes, that is exactly what I am telling you. Let's deal with some unknowns first. You have an affirmative duty to limit your contractor's damages. I can't imagine a contractor doing this without checking with the OP, in some way. If there is evidence that the OP was aware of this pan prior to it being finished then the contractor's damages will be limited to the damages to that point. This actually protects both parties, so this is why this could be actionable even if the OP ordered the wrong shower pan. Essentially you can't do work or allow work to be done that you know is unacceptable and may cost the other party additional expenses. There are a million different ways to disclaim the work and we are all assuming that the contractor didn't issue some kind of disclaimer. However, it seems reasonably possible that a contractor who is going to do this might lead the OP to believe they can make it look acceptable but not perfect. So then you get into some gray area about what would need to be done to make it acceptable rather than perfect. The courts are not going to demand a fix beyond what you previously found acceptable. Finally, let's suppose the contractor has no defense. The wait here for small claims is about seven months after which he has 1 year to pay before you can take further action, which extends by 120 days any time you accept any payment from him. Since he is not a W-2 employee you can't garnish wages so your best bet is a sheriff's auction, which is going to require an attorney. So maybe after 2.5 years you are made whole...I am pretty sure 2.5 years is more than a heartbeat. The OP's best course of action is to refuse further payment and if that can pay for the fix, then fix it. If not, then work out some compromise you can live with until you can recover....See Morejerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)
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