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Stinky perfumey air freshener neighbors

Debbie Downer
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

This seems to be the forum for neighbor problems - there sure are some doozies here! Hope y'all have some info/advice for me. Obviously, Ill need to talk to them and/or their landlord, but wanted to collect my thoughts first.. These neighbors ae not in my bldg, but next door, across the alley (10 feet wide). They smoke, but by far the bigger problem for me is their habit of running some kind of sickeningly sweet perfumey candles or plug-ins 24/7 which at times, depending on the direction of the wind and whether their windows are open, can be so intense I've had to leave my backyard. I have beginning stages of asthma, but aside from that - even when its not as intense its still annoying. I don't get to smell the sweet delicate smell of my garden soil in spring anymore. Or the smell of my flowers. Or the smell of rain. No. I have to smell their stinky chemical smells. Sometimes really it doesn't seem so bad, but then after breathing it for an hour or two I start feeling the tightening throat and the cough starts.

I know the air freshener is theirs because a) it started right when they moved in (have never had this problem in all my 30 yrs of living close to other people in urban environments) and b) the smell is always present to some degree in the alley between our houses near where their bathroom vent is.,,, and then when they open their doors its like.... whoa - super intense. Amazingly, when I asked about it last summer they claimed to not smell anything! After reading more about these chemicals though, its clear that they work not by "neutralizing' odors but by numbing peoples' sense of smell!

I did talk to them last summer and it seemed they cut down for a while on the perfumey stuff, but then I made the mistake of saying I hadn't noticed it much lately - so then they either started up again or maybe the wind switched and started blowing from the north ..... and into my yard again!

Wanted to ask y'all whether you've come across this problem before, how was it resolved? What do you do when what for most people is an innocuous product but for you is a major nuisance and health hazard? Wonder if it would be better to talk to the tenants again... or their landlord (with whom I have a friendly relationship as a fellow landlord)? He might be interested to know about their unattended campfires literally two feet from their back porch, and I do believe that excessive use of these chemicals can permeate the walls/floor and be just as awful for the landlord to deal with as smoke or pet odors.

Thanks all!

Comments (39)

  • christine 5b
    6 years ago

    I would speak to the landlord since you have a friendly relationship with him, ask him to speak to them but not to mention it was you that complained, otherwise it may come back and bite you in the butt if you know what I mean.


  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    6 years ago

    Really, no one else in the USA .... or on this forum anyway..... has had this problem? That's hard to believe - according to my reading 40% of asthmatics report these products as triggers and the chemicals they contain (phthalate, petrochemicals, formaldehyde, dichlorbenzene, etc) are really not good to be breathing continuously.

    Guess I was wondering how common it was for the stuff to escape someone's apartment and bother neighbors.

    Anyway... long story short we had a nice conversation (if I had gone to the landlord theywould have known it was me) and I think how its evolving is the afternoons Im out in my garden they'll just lay off. couldn't be happier and hope it lasts. theres still times when I catch a whiff but its not as annoying because I know I'll get my garden time.


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  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Well we shall see nsm! Im not particularly happy that they framed the situation as ME being "so sensitive" .... and not their being unable to smell just how intense it really is. It's kinda like people who wear perfume that's waaaayyy too strong and are seemingly unaware of it.

    But oh well, as long as I get my garden time... and they were genuinely wanting to be good neighbors which I appreciate - bottom line, that's what really matters, not getting my way every single time.

    It seems odd that there is awareness of perfume being asthma trigger and so there's often rules about not using it in the workplace. There's even been a big hoopla about use of e-cigs in public places and those havent yet been proven to be harmful. But there's just not the same awareness re: these types of household chemicals. Here's a good article about it if anyone's interested:

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  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    6 years ago

    Well that didn't last long. Because it was cold last week, I wasn't outside So I guess somehow in their minds, that made the agreement null and void and we're back to square one/.. Since its warm, their windows are all open so now everyone gets to smell their overpowering smells - seriously, you can smell this stuff like 3 or 4 houses away, 24/7.

    Then the new neighbors on the other side of me installed some kind of glary bright light that shines right into my bedroom!

    I swear, Im moving to a deserted island at the first opportunity - LOL.

    Am I being "too sensitive?" I don't think so, based on the fact that I lived in this same house for 12 years without either of these problems!

  • Claudia Thompson
    3 years ago

    As I was reading the opening post here, to try to find a solution for MY neighbor who does the same thing, open her windows wide open with perfumey smells coming out all the time lately and me wanting to be able to open my windows to get some fresh air, I remembered something in my past....

    When I lived somewhere else years ago, there were these neighbor that played their music SO LOUD that it drove me crazy. I really didn't know what to do to get them to stop and I didn't want to cause any trouble between us. And so this is what I did, and it worked!

    In the middle of the night, without telling anyone else that I was going to do this, I had written a short note, disguised my handwriting, and slipped it through their mail slot in their front door. Then I hurried back to my house. I even went around the block so they wouldn't possibly see me coming from my house to do it. I basically disguised who I was in the letter too. I said that it was really hot in the house and that me and my daughter were needing to open our windows to get some fresh air but that the smells of air freshener or candles or whatever it was that was coning from their house and out their windows was just SO overwhelming that it was very uncomfortable for me and causing my daughter to have asthma attacks and I too am getting sinus headaches because of it. And then I said that I really didn't want to have to bother them about it but could they please stop doing that, because it is so hot in the house and it is very difficult to have to keep our windows closed just so that we don't have to breathe the perfumey smells. Then I signed it Thank you, Your Neighbor.

  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Sorry to hear you were (are?) struggling with this same issue? So your note worked- is it continuing to work?

    My sense is that in 10-20 yrs the health issues will become more apparent and as more people use these products (including dryer sheets and ever more potent air freshsner chemicals) and as more of us live closer together in urban envrionments - I think people will eventually say "enough is enough" It took a while for inflicting cigarette smoke on others to become socially unacceptable.

    BTW I did talk to the landlord - he couldve cared less. Dontcha hate it when you try to present a problem and just hear dead silence in response. He eventually evicted them for non payment of rent. He left the door open for about a week airing it out and it was just awful - the horrendous stale stench coming from there. Yuck! Sometimes I would meet these people in other situations and had to stand back because the smell was emanating from them so instensely. Had to wonder, what were they trying to ccover up - a meth lab or what?

    Well its good to know that many or most users of these products might be a bit more reasonable and actually care about maintaining good relations with there neighbors. And not all are quite as insane as my former neighbors - they had multiple things going at once, not just one little plug-in in their bathroom.

    As fate would have it, a neighobr on the OTHER side of me recently moved in and started up with some strong odor. Im happy to report that she was receptive to my complaint and agreed to my suggestion that she stick to natural fragrance oil diffusers or incense w/natural ingredients like myrrh or frankinsence (which are not as intense). Occasionally smell it at times in my yard but its nowhere NEAR as invasive or toxic.

    A few article on the harmful chemicals contained in some of these:

    http://www.toxipedia.org/display/toxipedia/Air+Fresheners

    https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/fairfresheners.pdf

  • Claudia Thompson
    3 years ago

    The note I am going to leave about the air freshener is something i am planing on doing late tonight so I don't know if that will work yet :) ..I sure hope so. If I can't even stand to smell it a few houses down, I cannot imagine what it must be like inside of their house! Ugh!! I don't comprehend how people can use so much of that stuff!

    When you said about the campfires, These people also do that too! When they did that, it would stink up our whole kitchen all night long and I did tell the landlord about that and he made them stop doing it. I have trouble understanding how people don't just have the common sense to realise that maybe everyone in the neighborhood might not want to breathe that all night.

    You know, now that you mention it, they actually may be trying to cover up pot-smoking odors by using these air fresheners.

    I have been really going through heck over here where I'm at with chemical and gas smells coming out of the radiators and no one will do anything about it. Then I finally got a day without that and this woman over there does the air freshener thing. Its like I can't even have one day of peace with some fresh air!

  • Pam Robinson
    3 years ago

    I have neighbors that smell like this. They just moved. There is a lady down the road with like 6 kids. I can't walk past the house without a surgical mask from the air freshener. I could suffer that. The new family next door just seem to spray perfume on the deck or something all day. I have asthma and I end up with terrible migraines and sucking on my asthma inhaler any time I sit near a window. Sometimes I don't even need the window open. I have been trying to find a nice way to say "you stink". Everyone smells, I dust clean and vacuum regularly. The yard isn't perfect but I do my best to keep it clean. The perfume is actually causing problems with my health. Do I have any legal recourse?

  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I doubt it, they are not doing anything illegal. This stuff is where cigarettes were 50 yrs ago - ie a popular, highly profitable product with health risks that people are not quite aware of.... yet. Also i do happen to think there may be an addiction component to it as well....

    I have had this come up twice now and the 2nd time the person was a little more health oriented so I was able to give her some printed info on health hazards and redirect her to using products with more natural substances (eg handmade incense & oil diffusers) which just arent so potent nor engineered to hang in the air longer, unlike the current generation of air freshener chemicals. I smell her incense occasionally now but it isnt as strong nor does it go 24/7 like a candle or plug in.

    But pls note even these are oils dispersed in air which can aggravate asthma and also often products marketed as "green" or safe often arent - they may also have chemicals like phthalate, benzene, formaldehyde etc. Basically fragrance manufacturers, through a loophole in the law, are not required to disclose or test their ingredients.

    Laundry products like dryer sheets are another source of airborne toxicity - in some ways even worse because the products are designed to "cling." They say these products are "safe" when used as directed, but do not take into account dense urban environments like mine (my neighbors dryer vent is 3 ft from my windows/furnace intake). Or the fiends that have several products going at the same time, 24/7.

  • Claudia Thompson
    3 years ago

    Pam,

    I just don't comprehend how people can do these things and not even seem to realise or care how it affects everyone else who is forced to have to breathe it.
    Tonight, this same woman who was doing the air fresheners now is doing burning fires every other night or so, it almost seems like she invites a bunch of neighbors over to their back yard to burn their trash and it is just killing me. Our whole house smells like a burning garbage smell. And we cannot even open any windows and its hot outside.

  • Pea
    3 years ago

    We had a problem with a neighbor lighting fires in their yard burning yard trash, both theirs and that of a landscaping company. 3 or 4 times a week they'd have a fire in the yard...not a little campfire but a huge bonfire. I couldn't go out and garden or mow or sit on the porch. They had to quit when one of the neighbors behind them called the fire marshall and apparently there are all kinds of rules about where a fire can be placed in a yard so it stopped the fires mostly. I don't mind the occassional fire cause you celebrating something but every other day or all weekend is not something the neighbors want to constantly smell.

  • Belinda Sutton
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I am highly allergic to air freshener products and fragrances of any kind. My throat tightens up, I may start coughing and eventually I will get asthma. Right now I am trying to cope with my neighbour in the condo unit below using plug-ins. The smell comes into my unit and one small whiff and my throat swells. This situation led me to research air freshener products like plug-ins, etc. Using them is literally like putting a toxic chemical smog in your home. It's worse than smoking in your home. Bottom line is these products are extremely unhealthy. There's nothing natural in them. They deaden your sense of smell, cause cancer and a host of other illnesses. There are scary findings by U.S. university studies that you can Google and read for yourself. What many people don't realize is air freshener products are NOT regulated by the U.S. or Canadian governments. The onus is on the manufacturers to ensure they are safe. Air freshener products were originally used for garbage rooms and autopsies, but proliferated to every day use when manufacturers realized the market for them. People with no brains use these products to their own detriment as well as that of their neighbours. It's difficult to understand why these products are tolerated by society when such a huge anti-smoking, anti-fragrance movement exists. In my opinion, these products should be BANNED. An organization that could educate people on the dangers of these products is URGENTLY needed. People who use air fresheners, scented candles etc. are endangering themselves, their spouses, their children and their neighbours because the scent travels to other units. How anyone can tolerate having that scented stink in their home is beyond me. While people may like to portray someone like Current Resident (or me) as having issues ... the truth is the people who use these products have issues. The biggest issue is IGNORANCE because they have no idea what they are exposing themselves to.

  • katnipeverdeen
    3 years ago

    I sympathize with your situation completely. I don't live in an apartment or Condo, but in a rural/residential area, and right next door, less than 80 feet away is an older, divorced woman who chain smokes and uses excessive air fresheners inside her home. I know, because every summer, nearly every day, she throws open her garage door and windows wide and the south breeze carries this strong, hideously sweet, floral scent mixed with stale cigarette smoke into my backyard and into my open windows. I can't spend much time outside anymore because the smell of it literally chokes me - my throat closes, allergies ignite with sneezing, runny nose and I'm forced inside, closing all windows. I have resorted to buying dust masks to filter the stench if I do any gardening - which is beyond aggravating and counterproductive (I go outside to enjoy fresh air and end up having to filter it). As it is, I am very allergic to most commercial air fresheners, soaps, and fabric softeners, so I have to be very careful what I use in my own home. Which makes me wonder, if the smell coming from my neighbor's house is so strong how she can possibly stand it, unless her senses have become so desensitized by years of smoking and inhaling these floral chemicals that she can't smell anything anymore. I hate complaining, I really do, but it has come to the point when I would just like to enjoy the wooded sanctuary of nature that I have in my own back garden, and breathe in the fresh air - not someone else's chemically modified air pollution. I hate to say anything because I can imagine she will not see any problem as the smell doesn't bother her, after all, she has the advantage of actual fresh air coming into her windows. My problem then becomes a non-issue because to compromise might mean she'd have to change some of her actions, and that would be viewed as an infringement on her rights. It really feel sad, like there is no solution, other than for me to simply put up with it and stay indoors all summer.

  • Belinda Sutton
    3 years ago

    One reason your neighbour can tolerate the strong fragrance is because air fresheners contain chemicals that deaden a person's sense of smell. I have read posts on other sites where people, like you, have a neighbour whose air freshener fragrance travels outdoors and ruins their enjoyment of their garden. The fragrance also comes into their home and, like you, they have to keep their windows shut tight. Unfortunately, I don't think a solution exists yet. The only hope is that people will become aware of the health risks and stop using these products. But that may have no effect on your neighbour who, as a smoker, has little regard for her health or who wants to quit, but can't. By the way, I spoke to my downstairs neighbour and made her aware of the health risks and the impact of her air freshener on me. She got rid of the air freshener and now we are good friends. :-)

  • Lucille
    3 years ago

    Katnipeverdeen

    It is possible that, like Belinda's neighbor, she may be unaware of the impact of her air freshener on you. Belinda had a discussion, and solved the problem and gained a new friend.

    I have so far had no problems with my apartment neighbors above or side whatsoever, but if I did I would certainly try a friendly discussion.

  • katnipeverdeen
    3 years ago

    Belinda Sutton & Lucille

    My thanks for your responses, and I believe you're both right. We all become used to the scents in our homes, the good and the bad, and for someone who may smoke that can definitely change his/her sensitivity at an intense level. I'm very sure she's unaware her strong air freshener has any impact beyond her house. Even with a discussion I'm not optimistic anything will change, but I'm not going to give up entirely. At some point I may broach the subject to her, but will remember to keep expectations low, as the only real control anyone has is themselves and their own behavior. I do hope she'll be somewhat amenable to compromise, as she's spoken of having allergies to her own cats and seasonal pollen, which requires a doctor's script (and eye drops). In the meantime, I'll be sure to pick up a few more packages of painter's masks, just in case.

  • janmo_nc
    3 years ago

    I live in a townhouse and a smoker moved in next door about a year ago. Because of this I have to plan all my outdoor activities when she is at work. I can't keep the windows open anymore, and she also leaves over-flowing ashtrays on her front porch, right next to mine, that get wet and stink. And add me to the people who can't tolerate the perfume, air fresheners or wood fires. My throat closes up and I get anxiety. People get offended if you say anything about their perfume, and it never helps. The lady I work with argued that it was a "special" recipe from Paris, and "everyone" loves it. Thankfully she is now gone!

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  • HU-192973955
    2 years ago

    Depending on where you reside, you may actually have legal recourse. Check with local governing body/representative's office to determine what the law is. Smells need not be smoke to qualify. Any odor may qualify. I once heard tell of an odorous Tree that received protection from a livid resident - but never an offending dryer sheet or laundromat. Offending odors may be more heavily regulated in densely populated areas.

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  • Belinda Sutton
    2 years ago

    Unfortunately the use of stinky air freshener products is about to proliferate here in Canada as the use of marijuana becomes legal on Oct. 7, 2018. People will use air fresheners to conceal the skunk urine smell of the marijuana in their homes. :-(

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  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Oh this old thread - how funny! Actually not so funny, cos the stinky neighbors finally left - got kicked out or something. The landlord left all the doors/windows open for a week to air out - it smelled just awful. So life was nice for a while with new normal neighbors, but then recently they moved and we got a new set of neighbors. One of them who is friends with - guess who - the stinky airfreshener lady from 2015! So here we go again!!! Not QUITE as over the top, but bad enough.


    Do these people know that their products really dont smell ANYTHING like Fresh Summer Rain or a Tropical Breeze? Just cos there a picture of a bouquet of flowers doesnt mean your air freshener smells like flowers!

    A lot of that stuff reminds me more of a public toilet than anything pleasant! .



  • Belinda Sutton
    9 months ago

    My experience is that people who use air freshener may stop for awhile, if requested, but often restart again. I feel air fresheners should be banned in buildings. They are extremely unhealthy and it's so unfair to people who are allergic or who just plain don't like them. People should have the right not to smell a neighbour's stinky air freshener in their own space. Yes, air freshener can come through a wall, possibly through an electrical outlet.

  • HU-831098929
    9 months ago

    There are some great YouTube diy videos I have found that go over how and where those smells can come in from. When I first moved in here, I already had sealed some areas up, but one of the videos I watched mentioned the medicine cabinet as well, so there's my next project.


    And yes! I definitely agree they should be banned 🚫. I have asthma, allergies and sensitivities to those fragrances.

  • Belinda Sutton
    9 months ago

    I, too, have asthma, allergies and sensitivities to fragrance. I also don't like the smell of fragrance in a home. I like my place to smell "normal".

  • cheryl w
    9 months ago

    It’s better than the smell of stale smoke and 1000 year old refried fried food,

  • Belinda Sutton
    9 months ago

    I beg to differ. I would take the smell of stale smoke and 100-year-old fried food over air freshener any day of the week. Air freshener makes my throat swell and gives me a headache. The other odours, how ever unpleasant, do not.

  • cheryl w
    9 months ago

    No I fully understand.. one of my friends is highly reactive to artificial scents etc... with similar symptoms to what you’ve described.

    I’m bad with cigarette smoke and do empathize. Good luck though

  • jupidupi
    9 months ago

    Perfume can set off a migraine in the time it takes me to ride an elevator with the offending person. A friend of mine going through Chemo told me that cologne can make patients so sick that it is prohibited where she gets her treatments. I just don't understand why some people think they it's OK to force smells on everyone around them, just because they like it. I think scents are like the olfactory version of a boombox, except that instead of forcing everyone around you to listen to the music you like, you're forcing them to smell chemicals. And it doesn't matter -- the expensive stuff is just as nauseating. I think it should be illegal to wear perfume in public. In the meantime, I reserve the right to vomit on the smelly person who makes me sick.

  • Chelsey Steinman
    4 months ago

    I'm glad I found this forum. I HATE artificial smells. I had to start making my own candles (I use essential oils only) because I can't stand any candles anymore.


    I bought an apartment in March and noticed cigarette smoke smell coming from my neighbor (I complained to the board and they said that they never officially banned smoking indoors so couldn't do anything). It mostly comes into my closet in the bedroom and hallway. But even worse than that, I started noticing fragrance smells. My bedroom constantly smelled like Febreze. The one place in the world where you should feel the most at-home, comfy, and intimate smelled like someone's Glade plug-in. I noticed the floors were broken, so paid $2,000 to have them repaired. I also plugged up every hole, nook, and cranny I could.


    For a while, it started getting better. However, just a couple weeks ago I was sitting on my couch when suddenly I was engulfed with a smell that was like barbie perfume. I mean, completely engulfed. Every inch of my 700-square-foot apartment smelled like someone literally sprayed perfume straight in my face.


    It has started happening frequently ever since. I then started noticing that a door would open in the hallway and I would hear a spray noise right before it started. My neighbor is WALKING INTO THE HALLWAY TO SPRAY this stuff. I have no idea why.


    I can try to put insulation around my front door, but it's a door after all. I can't seal it up completely, and I doubt whatever I could do would go too far.


    Now that I realize the full, military-grade strength of the crap they are using, there is no wonder why it is still stinking up my closet even though I've caulked every crack I could find.


    This is so disgusting. I know there is discussion here on being "too sensitive" but let me tell you, I was a smoker for years and actually use e-cigarette now (vape). I have asthma, and I haven't needed an inhaler or any medications since I switched to vaping. I am a runner and very active, and have good lung capacity. This fragrance crap gives me asthma.


    That's all to say that nobody here is exaggerating or overreacting. I am better off smoking than even getting some of this fragrance spray secondhand.


    I might leave a note on their door, but they are grumpy old ladies who already seem to not like me.


    Anyway, at least I'm not alone.

  • Tori Canonne
    2 months ago

    Everyone here is probably experiencing some form of what is known as MCS and should definitely look into that to help spread the awareness and concern of this growing health issue for many! We need to stand up for ourselves and start getting laws set in place to protect those sensitive as the numbers at this point of people whom are effected negatively are highly concerning! Its bad for our health and environment and we all share the air! Time to spread awareness time to do something about it! It's miserable living with neighbors who affect the whole neighborhood like this. There's issues with reduction in sperm count in males and increased risk for ovarian cancer in females as well as many other hormonal issues and neurological issues caused by these synthetic fragrances. Big companies like Tide and Gain pay big money to try to cover that up so we have to speak up so people understand the concern. Even then however many wont listen so we need to spread awareness enough to get some laws changed to make the bigger impact!

    Debbie Downer thanked Tori Canonne
  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    last month
    last modified: last month

    This thread again! Well after the neighbors who inspired my original post were kicked out, we had a few normal ( ie. not addicted to endocrine disrupter petrochemical fumes) neighbors and it was just great! Could have windows open, just forgot about the problem.. Then new neigbhors moved in - and right away within minutes the chemical stink started up again. Turns out the new people are friends of the old fiends that got kicked out! Why on earth would a landlord rent to friends of those people I have no idea (this is a huge demand area).

    Theres one realllllyyyyy nasty one they do that I remember from the old people - has this sickingly sweet noxious cherry like odor that smells like what novocaine at the dentist tastes like.... if you know what I mean. It gives me an instant migraine

    They also run their dryer (vent is 8 ft away from my house) constantly using super smelly dryer sheets, and I made the mistake once of asking if they could cut down on it, which made them amp it up even more so now it goes pretty much every waking minute they are home. You can smell their house about a half a block away. Of course THEY cant because the smell receptors in their nose have been totally coated by this oily film deposit. Thats what air fresheners do - they DONT "freshen" any air - come on, how gullible do you have to be?!

    If it stops and I come outside to work on my garden, if they see me out there they immediately start up again. I HAVE NO IDEA why people want to wear clothes that others can smell 20 ft away (NOT EXAGGERATING) - its just totally bizarre.

    From observation of these neighbors (and having a smoking tenant once of my own in the downstairs apartment) I think some of this behavior may have to do with trying to cover up smoking in a non-smoking apartment. There are actually "smoke buster" products marketed specifically for this purpose which are horrendous.

    Therefore Ive changed my lease to read not only no smoking but also no excessive chemical fragrances - I define that as anything that you can document is bothering other people.

    I would suggest to renters to ask potential landlords what their policy is on smoking AND chemical fragrance use. This product is where smoking used to be 20 y rs ago - once enough of us decide we don't want it in our environment, things will change.

  • HU-36044602
    3 days ago

    Wow I could've wrote this whole thread myself along with all the comments but I still have more to add and I've only been dealing with this for 2 years. I've lived in my house for 40 years and my neighbor next to me sold her house 2 years ago to a couple that was suppose to be buying it for their elderly parents. It was a lie to win her over. These people bought it, gutted it and turned it into a community care facility. For the first year they were doing assisted suicides on a weekly basis. The smell of defecation and decomposing bodies blanketed our neighborhood. It was insane. I live in an extremely nice upscale neighborhood. Things like this are unheard of and are only seen on TV. The smell from this facility made my family so sick that half of my family had to move out. I stayed but became so ill from the smell that I could hardly get out of bed. I managed to set of many cameras and have many audio recordings on these people(just collecting evidence). So after a year they stopped the suicides and started cooking meth. Turned out that sweet chemical burning smell was a meth lab in my case. I had to do a lot of work to figure this out and a few illegal things just to be sure before I opened my mouth to my other neighbors because I knew that if I didn't have real proof that nobody would ever believe me. Like I said things like this don't happen where I live, not in my neighborhood anyway. But sadly because my evidence was obtained illegally I could not share it with anyone other than my close neighbors, so this facility/meth lab is still up and running next to my home. Ugh....

  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    2 days ago

    What!? How is this remotely legal. So are you saying they are using air fresheners to cover up the stench? It's not your job to collect evidence or build the case to take to court - I would just start with calling police non emergency no. and ask what to do or who to contact re noxious smells. Could be building inspection. Or get lawyer to look at your evidence and act on your behalf. Unlike air fresheners (topic of this thread) decomposing bodies and meth labs are very much NOT legal! I did find out recently, at least in our city, nuisance behavior of any kind is not legal and that does in fact include noxious odors - whether from legal or illegal causes.

  • jupidupi
    yesterday

    Meth labs aren't just illegal and noxious, they can be explosive and dangerous. If the police are no longer responding to you, have a friend call to report it.

    Also, where do you live that they have assisted suicide?

  • HU-36044602
    yesterday

    I did go to the police and told a couple people when it first started and they all thought I was nuts and on drugs so I took a drug test to prove that I wasn't crazy and called a few friends over on the nights of the suicides and a few more on the nights they were cooking meth and said suprise take a whiff and everyone about lost their minds. They all believed me now. I told them it's in their best interest to not tell anyone but they all went to their jobs the following day and told everyone. Half way through their shifts I got calls from some of them crying. The others cried when they got home. I asked them all what's wrong. Their answers were all the same, everyone thinks they are crazy! They might be having a breakdown. My response 🤣😆 I just laughed.! I said I told everyone not to tell anyone but they said I'm telling the truth and everyone should know. Ha ha ha yes this would be nice but if my own family and friends thought I was crazy, I knew the rest of the world would come down on them and me alot Harder so I knew I was going to need proof but even with proof people still don't believe unless they experience it first hand because this meth labs packaging is out of the ordinary, you would never know it by looking at it or even going in it. They have patients in this place, the lab is not sitting out for the world to see but how do they get away with it then. Well for one all of their patients are wheel chair bound and are mentally disabled and can't really speak or move much and during the times they were cooking alot they only had 1 or 2 patients there and usuallythe patients died or went to the hospital. I don't know if cooking had anything to do with the patients dying or going to the hospital as there are no records of any ambulances or deaths at this facility/home. Which my entire neighborhood doesn't understand because we all have photos and videos of over 50 60 bodies or patients being taken way by ambulances from that place.. Anyway This lab is so well thought out its unbelievable and ordinary cops don't know anything about a real meth lab. They still think meth labs need to be big and super smelly but they don't. I've now seen first hand what a small meth lab looks like and just how little you truly need to make meth and given that most of the things used to make meth are in this facility already or can be easily carried in and out with a duffle bag, your average cop or person doesn't even know this. It's 2 years later and I'm still trying to get someone of substance to actually help us. Ugh... who knew it would be so easy to run a meth lab in an upscale neighborhood. lol 😆 I guess they did!

  • HU-36044602
    yesterday

    Oh and I'm the guilty party that tried to use air freshener, yard deodorizer, candles to cover up their stench. None of it worked. It actually just made it worse for me and harder for the city to notice their stench. Ugh.. and I hate air fresheners with a passion but I was desperate to try anything.

  • Debbie Downer
    Original Author
    yesterday
    last modified: yesterday

    Have you tried reporting to the DEA https://www.dea.gov/who-we-are/contact-us 


  • HU-36044602
    yesterday

    Yes and I never heard anything back from them. Its all really frustrating. I actually just submitted another tip to them right now as well so maybe they will contact me after this one.

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