Can you please take a look at my layout?
Carolyn
9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I'm currently getting quotes for cabinets and want to make sure this enough information to give them. Also, I'd love to hear any suggestions on how to improve this.
The wall on the left with the fridge is the only wall with upper cabinets. We are converting a sun room into our kitchen and there will be a lot of windows. We are keeping 6 windows and one door along that long sink wall. There will be one window on the stove wall.
One thing to note: the pantry is not shown. It is 5' wide x 5' deep and will have an L shaped shelf. I am not concerned with it not being in the primary kitchen space. I have been watching how we use our current pantry and I had an epiphany the other day... I do not use the pantry unless I need more paper towels. We eat paleo/whole 30, so almost all of our food comes out of the fridge or a fruit/veggie bowl.
Thank you!
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Carolyn
9 years ago
I completely agree about the stools, I just hadn't thought of it that way. Nobody ever wants to be in the middle. Thank you @benjesbride. I had a feeling I'd get a negative reaction about the fridge placement. We initially had it further over to the right with a small pullout pantry to the right of it and a larger section of cabinetry to the left, but then I really wanted a built in hutch painted in a different color than the cabinets and that led me to this layout. We measured the doors and the distance they swing open and practiced in our current kitchen (current kitchen has fridge with a double oven to the right and a door to the left... no landing zones on either side of the fridge) and we are still debating if it's the right decision. I will definitely think about moving it back and eliminating the hutch.
I was thinking about the microwave... it literally never gets used. We only use it to reheat previous nights dinner for lunch. I thought it would be easier to put the meal in and then take out the hot plate and set it directly on the peninsula (where it will likely get eaten). Rather than walk with it across the room. What do you think?
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Comments (6)I'd like to suggest you check the "Layout Help" topic in the "Read Me" thread. It has a list of questions for you that answering here will help us help you get the best possible layout based on your needs, wants, and constraints. A few things to keep in mind: Aisles widths...are determined by measuring counter edge-to-counter edge, not cabinet-to-cabinet (unless there's no counter, of course!) For appliances, measure from the part that sticks out the furthest (usually the handle...this info is contained in appliance specs). Seating overhang...for counter-height seating should be a minimum of 15" (I think you already have that, and more, but I thought I'd mention it just in case you don't...and for anyone just lurking and reading this thread to learn more!) BTW...if you put decorative doors on the back of the island, they will take away approx 1" from the overhang. Walkways....In a seating area, 36" of clearance from counter/table edge to wall/obstruction if no traffic passes behind seated diners. 65" of total clearance when this includes a walkway (i.e., traffic). [From NKBA Kitchen Planning Guidelines With Access Standards] There are three primary work zones...Prep Zone (70% of kitchen work/time), Cooking Zone (10% of kitchen work/time), and Cleanup Zone (20% of kitchen work/time) Of these, the Prep & Cooking Zones work best when either next to each other or across from each other, but across no more than a 48" aisle. The Cleanup Zone usually works best if it's separated from the Prep & Cooking Zones. Sometimes that means different parts of the kitchen (usually with a prep sink in the Pep Zone), other times it means the only sink in the kitchen separates them...Prep & Cooking Zones on one side of the sink, Cleanup Zone with DW on the other side of the sink. Trash & recycle pullout...works best in the Prep Zone, near the Cooking Zone, and, if only one and possible, near the Cleanup Zone. Far more trash & recyclables are generated while prepping and cooking than while cleaning up. So, if you have to choose, put the trash & recycle in the Prep Zone instead of the Cleanup Zone. (That's the biggest mistake I made, I put it in the Cleanup Zone across a 6' aisle from the Prep Zone...it's my biggest regret by far in my kitchen.] Prep sinks...should be no smaller than 12" x 12"...and bigger is better - I recommend no less than 15" in each direction, 18" would be better, IMHO. Anything smaller is not very useful for prepping. Those smaller sinks are often called "bar sinks" b/c they're really only big enough for filling a glass with water or dumping a glass. They're not big enough to clean veggies/fruit or empty a colander. Zone protection...strive to protect the Cooking Zone from traffic - both through-traffic as well as in-kitchen traffic. While cooking, you are dealing with very hot pots/pans/food and you don't want to be tripping over or dodging traffic, open DW doors, etc. This......See MorePlease take one last look at my kitchen layout!
Comments (10)Since our DH has relented on the monster-fridge, I'd reconsider the lay out. Right now you have a major issue: a barrier island that is in the way between the main action centers - the fridge, sink and cooker. How about moving the fridge to the upper right of the drawing and using the present fridge position for storage than isn't used as much. Or put it on the lower right section of cabs below the sink. Think about how your food flows through a meal prep and arrange things so that you don't need to walk all around the sides of the island or cross and back forth on your pathway to get it done. (Think frozen peas from the freezer to the sink for that small amount water in the pot before going back to the stove to be cooked. Try to avoid backtracks.) As remodelfla points out, your island would be better if rotated 90 degrees. Without the extra inches used by the fridge, you have a few (necessary) inches to work with. The present layout was driven by the honkin' fridge demand. Without it, you now have much better options. Don't keep on paying the spatial "cost" for something you're no longer doing. HTH L....See MorePlease take a look at my kitchen layout
Comments (3)I agree with you on the fridge. One thing I wonder is does the wall need to stick out that far. We have a wall like it and I wish it was shorter. Enough so I didn't have to have the fridge pulled out as much and also because it is in an area that sees a lot of traffic going around the corner. Ours is load bearing though....See MoreKitchen Layout Gurus--Please take a look at my plan
Comments (51)Hi everyone. I've been trying to get paying work done (I freelance), but I've had more ideas bouncing around my head. I'm liking what we all came up with for the island/table configuration. But, I really want to move the wall. I think it just opens up many options for the kitchen. I talked to the engineer today and am setting up an appt for him to evaluate next week. I also talked to a framer that a full-service firm who didn't want my small job referred me to. He does nothing but framing for builders and remodelers. He told me "realistically anywhere from $1500 to $3k" and he knows about pouring new footers if needed and building temp support walls on all 3 floors while the new support is being built. IF it is under $5k altogether to move the walls, then I'll do it. Our cabinets will come in at under $5k, so I figure for the $10k lots of folks in our neighborhood spend on cabinets at Home Depot, I'm getting the layout I really want. So here is my latest plan (number 472 I think ;-) Janet--I got you some landing space for the ovens! Which is now also a beverage center outside the main work space, so I think that is good placement for kids to grab something and for adults at parties. All my wine glasses can go in the cab above. The micro is there as well. The micro might be better inside my L space, but this way, it's pretty convenient to getting heated stuff to the table. And we use it mostly for steaming veggies or heating up leftovers, so things usually go from micro to table. Plus there is more storage space with that unit. I appreciate the feedback on the corner, but I like this cabinet versus the 36" lazy Susan (which I think should be renamed the "go-getter Susan" ;-). I don't like the piano hinge door on the Susan cab--I can see my kids banging it around and scratching up the cabinets around it will get banged up too. That IKEA corner unit has a door and it is just two half moon shelves that swing out. It may not hold as much, but I found it pretty handy to use. Plus, it gives me a drawer right there by the cooktop which the Susan doesn't have. Another thing I realized is that the DR door shouldn't be centered on the wall--it needs to stay near where it is now. Even though I think it looks more aesthetically pleasing to be centered, that door is a direct pathway into the kitchen and we don't need to be maneuvering around the dining room table. LavenderLass--you may have missed this in my earlier verbose posts, but I already have most of the appliances in the basement. They were a great deal from a fancy appliance store that went out of business. So, it's putting the cart before the horse, but I'm trying to work it all in. Thank you for helping me out on the window--I'm definitely going to find out the costs on that one. It would look much more upscale. I'll check in after I've met with the engineer and get more precise bids on the wall. Keep your fingers crossed. Thanks to everyone for your encouragement and suggestions so far. Susan Layout number 472: View of the DR wall for this plan:...See MoreCarolyn
9 years agoCarolyn
9 years agolast modified: 9 years ago
Lavender Lass
9 years agolast modified: 9 years agoI like windows in a kitchen...but that's a LOT of windows. Will the sun be in your eyes, while you're trying to cook? Will you have enough storage? Can you lose a few windows and still be happy with the space?
Maybe something like this?
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funkycamper
9 years agoI really prefer Lavender Lass's plan best for workflow. Mainly because it gives you a prep sink which is invaluable, imho. But I'd do it without losing any of your fantastic windows. Something like this.
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