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Suggestions - Eliminating Jack and Jill Bath in New Construction

9 years ago

last modified: 9 years ago

Looking for suggestions on eliminating a Jack and Jill Bathroom between 2 kids bedrooms in new construction floor plan. Not a big fan of J & J, especially 'looking' in and seeing the sink from the bedroom. The proposed layout on the left has that look, but also has non-optimally sized WIC, and a huge drying area outside of the shower. Re-mapping this (right) gives larger 5x7 WIC, and 2 large 5'3" x 8'10" areas (plus a bit in between) to put a bathroom for each child. I was thinking just showers in both bathrooms (what is 'good' size ?) and would like a small linen closet in each as well. Trying to avoid the standard 5x9 bathroom look. My total area to work with is 12'7" x 14'2"

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kirkhall
9 years ago
First, you are on the right track.

Second, you need to remember walls, and especially plumbing walls, have a dimension (thickness). Plan minimum of 5", but up to 7". So, I don't think you have as much room as you think (as you've drawn).

A good size for a stand alone shower for a kid/teen/single adult to use is the 3x4 standard showers. Have a look at some standard sized pre-fabricated (ie, cast iron) shower pans. That will give you a good idea of a good size.

Do you have another tub in the home besides a master tub, if you only put showers in these ones? If not, I'd reconsider putting in only showers. Esp if these might later be used by a family with smaller children. If you plan to live here forever, well, less concern. If you plan to live here a long time, but maybe not forever, consider making sure there is space to replace a shower pan in the future with a tub if that is needed by the future family.

For the bathrooms, try to get wider than a 26" door (or is that 2'6"?) I would want a 30" door minimum, 32 or 34 is better, imo.

Finally, you can lose a corner in a closet and not lose a whole lot (any) storage space, due to the overlapping natures of the depths. So, if you need to lost the back right corner (as you enter the closet) in each of these closets, to bathroom space to make your end goals, you should feel ok about doing that.
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