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Drooping leaves on my rubber plant. Help!

ladybuglover15
9 years ago

My Gma gave me 2 rubber plants last summer and both were doing fine til a few months ago. On one of them a couple leaves turned yellow and dropped off and now all the leaves are drooping downward, but haven't fallen off. The other plant sits only a couple feet away from it and is doing just fine. What's the matter with it? Is there something I can do to revive the one plant?


Comments (30)

  • lyceebear
    9 years ago

    @Ladybuglover15 - For us to be most helpful we will need a little more information.

    What kind of soil are they potted in? MG (miracle grow)? a picture of the soil will help if you are not sure.
    What kind of light they getting? What direction does the window closest to them face? How far away from the window are they? Do they get full sun/filtered sun/mostly shade?
    Do you fertilize? How often, with what fertilizer and at what strength?
    Have you re-potted since you received the plants?
    It would be helpful to have close up pictures of each plant.

    ladybuglover15 thanked lyceebear
  • ladybuglover15
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Hi, I'm not sure the soil so I will attach a photo. They have not been re-potted since I received them. I have not fertilized them at all. They sit in a south window - about 2 feet from the sill. They get quite a bit of sun, but the window is small so there are not lots of hours of direct sunlight on them. Thanks for all your input! I'm quite a novice at house plants. :)

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    Thanks so much! I loosened the soil around the roots and gave it a couple really good waterings and it is already perking up. :)

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    Is it ok to add miracle grow soil these types of plants? Also one of the stems broke off. What should I do? Can I replant it?

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    I seem to have a similar problem - the soil seems to be dry when inserting a finger from the top, even if i watered it today. But i'm afraid to overwater it given that the pot only has one hole at the bottom. Can anyone tell me if the issue is over or underwatering?


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    Thanks so much. Done that and the soil didnt stick so I will water it some more today. Fingers crossed it will improve.

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    4 years ago
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  • HU-875805641
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    Hi all, I came across this thread and am hoping to get some help. I believe the plant in the white pot is a rubber plant. It has always thrived but over the past few weeks it has started to droop to the sides and I can’t tell if it needs more water or less. When I stick my finger in the soil about 2in it’s dry.

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  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    3 years ago
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    The smaller plant is not F elastica ..... looks much like F glumosa or benghalensis, but there are more than 1,000 species of ficus, so ......

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    In many cases, we can judge whether or not a planting needs watering by hefting the pot. This is especially true if the pot is made from light material, like plastic, but doesn't work (as) well when the pot is made from heavier material, like clay, or when the size/weight of the pot precludes grabbing it with one hand to judge its weight and gauge the need for water.

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    One of the most reliable methods of checking a planting's need for water is using a 'tell'. You can use a bamboo skewer in a pinch, but a wooden dowel rod of about 5/16” (75-85mm) would work better. They usually come 48” (120cm) long and can usually be cut in half and serve as a pair. Sharpen all 4 ends in a pencil sharpener and slightly blunt the tip so it's about the diameter of the head on a straight pin. Push the wooden tell deep into the soil. Don't worry, it won't harm the root system. If the plant is quite root-bound, you might need to try several places until you find one where you can push it all the way to the pot's bottom. Leave it a few seconds, then withdraw it and inspect the tip for moisture. For most plantings, withhold water until the tell comes out dry or nearly so. If you see signs of wilting, adjust the interval between waterings so drought stress isn't a recurring issue.

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  • Richelle Ramirez
    3 years ago

    I've repotted my 5feet rubber tree plant then suddenly all leaves began to droop. Its positioned indoor just by the window with an indirect bright light. What have I done wrong and can I still save it? Its 5 feet tall with only one stem. Thanks

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    3 years ago

    Need more info. How did you go about the repotting? Did you pot-up a pot size or repot, which includes bare-rooting, root pruning, and a change of medium. What did you use as a medium? Is there a drain hole in the pot? Did you fertilize or use/ apply any other 'product' immediately before/ during/ after the repot other than water? Need an image of the plant and pot, please.


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  • Payal Deshmukh
    3 years ago

    Hi I came across this thread right when I m trying to recover my over watered rubber plant... so as you can see in the pictures my rubber plant has multiple branches... and one of them I affected and I m worried I don’t affect the rest of them.... it’s pretty root bound. Hoping someone can give me the best advice.

  • Payal Deshmukh
    3 years ago

    So this is how I have put it to let the roots and soil dry out... Is it ok to keep it like that ?

  • Christian Mendoza
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago


    Can someone help me please with my rubber plant. :( The leaves are drooping and some leaves are turning yellow/brown and are falling off. Can you tell me what to do?

  • somya nayak
    3 years ago

    Hi..please help..my rubber plant leaves are drooping..i have watered them only after the soil was completely dry..but still the leaves are drooping..don’t know what to do..I usually keep it indoors in medium light but i also kept it out in bright light for 5-7 hours..please help!!!

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    3 years ago

    ..... appears the soil is to water-retentive and compacted. Roots need oxygen to function normally. If the soil doesn't hold enough oxygen or you over-water, The plant's internal water pressure drops, causing loss of turgidity and wilting.


    The best way to tell if the/a soil is 'completely dry' is by using a tell.


    Using a 'tell'

    Over-watering saps vitality and is one of the most common plant assassins, so learning to avoid it is worth the small effort. Plants make and store their own energy source – photosynthate - (sugar/glucose). Functioning roots need energy to drive their metabolic processes, and in order to get it, they use oxygen to burn (oxidize) their food. From this, we can see that terrestrial plants need plenty of air (oxygen) in the soil to drive root function. Many off-the-shelf soils hold too much water and not enough air to support the kind of root health most growers would like to see; and, a healthy root system is a prerequisite to a healthy plant.

    Watering in small sips leads to avoid over-watering leads to a residual build-up of dissolved solids (salts) in the soil from tapwater and fertilizer solutions, which limits a plant's ability to absorb water – so watering in sips simply moves us to the other horn of a dilemma. It creates another problem that requires resolution. Better, would be to simply adopt a soil that drains well enough to allow watering to beyond the saturation point, so we're flushing the soil of accumulating dissolved solids whenever we water; this, w/o the plant being forced to pay a tax in the form of reduced vitality, due to prolong periods of soil saturation. Sometimes, though, that's not a course we can immediately steer, which makes controlling how often we water a very important factor.

    In many cases, we can judge whether or not a planting needs watering by hefting the pot. This is especially true if the pot is made from light material, like plastic, but doesn't work (as) well when the pot is made from heavier material, like clay, or when the size/weight of the pot precludes grabbing it with one hand to judge its weight and gauge the need for water.

    Fingers stuck an inch or two into the soil work ok for shallow pots, but not for deep pots. Deep pots might have 3 or more inches of soil that feels totally dry, while the lower several inches of the soil is 100% saturated. Obviously, the lack of oxygen in the root zone situation can wreak havoc with root health and cause the loss of a very notable measure of your plant's potential. Inexpensive watering meters don't even measure moisture levels, they measure electrical conductivity. Clean the tip and insert it into a cup of distilled water and witness the fact it reads 'DRY'.

    One of the most reliable methods of checking a planting's need for water is using a 'tell'. You can use a bamboo skewer in a pinch, but a wooden dowel rod of about 5/16” (75-85mm) would work better. They usually come 48” (120cm) long and can usually be cut in half and serve as a pair. Sharpen all 4 ends in a pencil sharpener and slightly blunt the tip so it's about the diameter of the head on a straight pin. Push the wooden tell deep into the soil. Don't worry, it won't harm the root system. If the plant is quite root-bound, you might need to try several places until you find one where you can push it all the way to the pot's bottom. Leave it a few seconds, then withdraw it and inspect the tip for moisture. For most plantings, withhold water until the tell comes out dry or nearly so. If you see signs of wilting, adjust the interval between waterings so drought stress isn't a recurring issue.


    Al

  • somya nayak
    3 years ago

    Thank you...i have tried loosening up the top soil as well and kept it in the balcony to get more sunlight..

  • HU-677229853
    3 years ago

    My rubber tree is losing bottom leaves for the last year however it’s growing like wild at the top but the new growth doesnt seem to be as strong and thick and big as the original leaves. I tried moving it closer to the light but it continues to drop. Could it be the lack of humidity or cold draft as I moved it about a year ago from a warmer room with direct light.


  • Rohith Iyyappan
    2 years ago

    Hi my rubber plant leaves are dropping though the solo was dry.. I watered thoroughly but there leaves are not back on yet.. will they ever get back to the old position? I also doing if it's doing coz the leaves are too heavy??

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    It's a trait common to Ficus lyrata and elastica, that once leaves wilt, they often cannot recover to their original spatial position. The leaf petioles are semi-woody so when they wilt and bend compression wood forms on the inside (usually underside) branch curves. Compression wood consists of compressed cells and contains more lignin (makes wood woody/ stiff/ hard) than normal wood, which helps branches resist sagging. On the outside/ upper side of branch curves, more cellulose, which is especially good at resisting tension (which is why it produces what's called tension wood. Both strategies appear to work most of the time but wilting causes cells on the top of the bend to stretch beyond their limits, damaging some cells, while cells on the bottom of the bend are compressed beyond their limits and also damaged, which is what renders some leaves unable to return to their original spatial position.

    The difference can be clearly seen in an image of a branch cross section. Space between growth rings on the top of a curved branch are far apart, indicating tension wood, and cells on the inside of the curve are much closer together, compression wood. If you want more info, use the search term "reaction wood".

    Al

  • Megan Strobel
    2 years ago

    Hi all- appreciate any insights you have for my drooping ficus plant. historically the drooping has bounced back after watering, but this time has not been the case. i was watering once monthly when the soil was bone dry and it would perk up in the summer. this time around the drooping has lasted a few weeks and i have been monitoring and watering when the entire finger in the soil is dry. Its typically next to a window that faces west. i just moved it to a east facing window to see if that helps. there are small breaks in the leaves that now have this white chalky material on top of them (photo attached). there is similar chalky material on the bottom of the container where the holes are. i keep this plant in its original plastic bfor drainage inside a ceramic one. i water by soaking in the sink until water comes out the bottom and let it sit on a grate for 10 mins so it doesnt soak in its own water after. any advice you have would be amazing! it is winter/cold now, so wondering if temperature could be a factor or if this is a fungal thing. thanks!!



  • Tiffany, purpleinopp Z8b Opp, AL
    2 years ago

    Megan, I would try watering your plant more often. When you water, do it twice in case the soil has gotten so dry that most of the water just ran by the soil but didn't soak in when you watered the first time. (Hydrophobic.) Waiting 10 mins between applications usually works well. When you water, the soil should be thoroughly moistened throughout afterward. It might take 3-4 applications the first time if it has gotten totally dry.


    I also recommend reading the posts above by Al.

  • Megan Strobel
    2 years ago

    Thanks- i did that two days ago and now there are multifocal light brown spots on the leaves. I will also try to see if i can get more aeration to the rootspaces per Al’s discussion on oxygen above. The fractured brown crispy leaves persist, but I haven't seen any more chalky white material. thanks

  • Farooq Ahsan
    2 years ago

    My rubber plants leaves are drooping and the soil isn't draining properly.


    What should I do. Plz

  • Farooq Ahsan
    2 years ago

    Also I have the plant out in the sun, is that OK or should I shift it indoor.