Converting Jack n Jill bathroom to two private en suite bathrooms
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Comments (30)I would love to see your unconventional master bath!! Our plan started with a first-floor master bedroom /bath plus an extraordinarily poorly placed powder room. You noted above that you don't like cleaning bathrooms -- I'm with you on that. Since it's just me and my husband most of the time, I don't see the point in two toilets on the first floor ... so we moved the powder room next to the master bath and removed the toilet from the master bath. So we're planning the powder room to be adjacent from BOTH the master bedroom AND the main house ... and then we have the bathing facilities separate. Unlike toilets-shoved-in-closets, the powder room is 5' the short direction, so it's large enough for comfort, and I only have one toilet to clean on the first floor. I've removed the other parts of the house, so it looks kind of confusing ... you'll have to trust me that it fits in nicely with the rest of the house ... at the foot of the tub, that's a little ledge and a TV for my husband ... that's a linen tower to the left of the vanity ... that's the shower head floating in mid-air /obviously it'll be attached to the wall: I definitely see your point about two standard bathrooms being more economical, just trying to figure out for myself if I was thinking of doing something different for the sake of being different or if it would actual make life easier for my family! Walking yourself through various options is a good way to determine that. We personally are sold on the above bath layout because my husband likes to stay in the tub for hours at a time (he often "reserves" the tub before a, so we decided it makes sense to place the toilet close-but-separate. Also, what computer program are you using? :) HGTV Home and Landscape Platinum Suite. It's nothing special. I drew up your latest suggestion in this program. Concerns: - If you're trying to have kids share, you need a sink in the toilet closet. Otherwise, you still have a problem with the kid in the toilet closet coming out and having no sink available to him ... if you're going to do a toilet-in-a-closet, I'd put a small pedestal sink in there too. - You have a bottleneck in the sink area. If the kids are using this area at the same time, you're going to have people trying to squeeze past people at the sink. - I forgot the exact square footage and have already cleared it out of my computer program, but it was in the 130s ... so it's still bigger than two simple bathrooms and has water walls spread around. However, if the access is off a common hallway, having two baths right beside each other seems silly to me I think the two baths side-by-side appear silly because they're floating in mid-air. If we had a whole floorplan and could see one bedroom to the left of the back-to-back baths /two bedrooms to the right of the back-to-back baths, it'd look different. It'd look like the bathrooms each "belonged" to those bedrooms, though they're accessed through the hall. Mrs. Pete has some great ideas. keeping your water from the same source, but with two separate you'll definitely have an easier time selling. best of luck! I agree that most people would be attracted to two plain bathrooms rather than a "creative" layout. With resale in mind, here's a question: How long do you anticipate staying in this house? If you're going to move before the kids are teens, I'd say go with one simple bathroom. One bathroom would be enough for them until they start in with make-up /hair and shaving. I think that a girls bath and a boys bath might be nice - perhaps the girls bath has one sink and more storage / makeup area and a tub and the boys get 2 sinks and a shower unit, etc That'd work fine if the OP ends up with a nice even split of 2 girls and 2 boys ... but since half these children aren't even conceived yet, that's a guess....See Moreturning LR & DR into in-law suite (add bathroom)
Comments (19)We were looking for houses like these, and were priced out of them too. Or lets say we didn't want to spend that kind of money (So Cal here) We decided to go with an older smaller cheaper house that we could add to, and that would have a layout not ideal but making sense and doable, for having our MIL with us. While I love the result it took us 2 years and in terms of price, we'd better pay right away for the house that fitted our needs. (maybe your area is totally different in terms of costs and labor, that I wouldn't know. Talking to builders where you live is an excellent idea) More than that, we ended up buying a condo for MIL (very very close to us) because for now she prefers her independence. We did live together during the remodel, or part of it. If I knew all that I'd just talk my very savvy husband into buying a house with a casita or something.. Would be same financially if not less, and I'd definitely be a healthier person than I am now. Back to you though-look into one store-y properties if you have them around where you live, with a wing of bedrooms/bathrooms, ranch-like..along the lines of what Virgil was talking about. That's our house's plan..MIL's room is right next to the hall bath. We use it as a guest room currently, but she also stayed here to recuperate after hospital, etc. The hall bath has a tub though(she's fine with tubs but if you need shower that's something to consider), it's the only room we didn't fully remodel, and only that room would be about 12K worth of labour only, without moving plumbing around, and not including finishes. I so get what you're going through..greatest luck to you....See MoreJack and Jill or two small bathrooms???
Comments (20)In response to saving money with a J&J. You will save on the cost of one toilet and one tub and tub/shower fixtures...that might be $1000 depending on grade plus installation and a little extra plumbing. Floor tile is probably a wash because the area covered really hasn't decreased. There's a little less wall tile from removing a tub (or even less cost saved with a fully fiberglass unit). Wall framing and drywall might see a slight increase, and you may have 2 extra doors if the vanity areas also had doors. So all in you might be looking at something like $3000 to exchange two bathrooms for a J&J. So while it is true that they could save "thousands" it's a drop in the bucket compared to the full cost of a house to have it put ahead of function. But coming back to the original question, it sounds like the poster is largely thinking about the two bathrooms for resale if the bonus room were to become another bedroom, not necessarily because they ever plan to use it themselves. In that case I would first check local real estate and see whether it is essential in your area that all bedrooms have their own bath. In a really high end area that might be the case, but most anywhere else as long as a bedroom has access to a bathroom on the same floor, that will be good enough. If it were my house I would do a single hall bath in that area with an extra door leading into bedroom 3, That way that child has direct access to their bathroom and will keep the door to the hallway locked at all times. But when you go to sell, you can still count the bonus room as a bedroom because it has hall access to bedroom 3's bathroom. You can save the money from a 6th bathroom and get a larger playroom....See MoreJack and Jill Bathroom
Comments (37)I'm not against a well-designed J&J bathroom, but most of the ones we see here are an overly-complex mess -- and this one, with its three doors is no exception. I'm sorry but that is overkill 2 1/2 baths in a 3 bedroom house is plenty! Agree -- unless your hobby is cleaning toilets. What about giving each their own toilet and sink opposite each other in a long closet like WC at each end of this large room, with tub/shower combo between them? Without seeing a floor plan, this sounds like a much better-designed J&J. Everyone prefers a small private bathroom over a shared one. Disagree: - "Small" is not a very exact term -- minimal /barely meets code isn't comfortable, even for a small person like me, and it often means no storage. On the other hand, moderate-in-size is a great option. - The person paying the builder's fee might very well prefer one bathroom over two. - The person cleaning the bathrooms might very well prefer one bathroom over two. - We don't know who's going to be using this bathroom. If these are for college students who are away much of the time, the parents might not want to provide a private bath for kids who are away most of the time. Three doors is a waste of important storage space. Agree, and no one ever says, "I wish I didn't have so many nice closets." I wouldn't concern myself with whether the GC will be annoyed if you make this change. No, but I would care if he added to my bill, so make your changes now. The longer you wait, the more you'll pay....See MoreRelated Professionals
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