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Organic vs inorganic arsenic/uptake by brown rice--a fishy story

elisa_z5
9 years ago

I'm posting this here because it seems to be the most active forum with knowledgeable people about things like soil chemistry, and I would absolutely love some clarity about all this.

Remember the whole arsenic in brown rice scare?

Here is what I've been able to gather: there is inorganic arsenic (in water or air -- which is toxic) and organic arsenic (in plants and animals) which apparently many toxicologists think is not toxic at all.
No one is warning about the arsenic in seafood, chicken, leafy greens, or mushrooms -- notably, the arsenic in seafood is said to be all organic, so it's non toxic.
But despite rice being a plant, they're saying the arsenic in it it largely inorganic. Why would that be? Wouldn't it combine with elements in the rice and become organic arsenic?

This from webmd "In the environment, arsenic combines with oxygen, chlorine, and sulfur to form inorganic arsenic compounds.
In plants and animals, arsenic combines with hydrogen and oxygen to form organic arsenic compounds."

As I looked into this whole thing, it got curiouser and curiouser.

The FDA has been monitoring toxins in food since 1991, but just a couple years ago they decided there might be too much arsenic in rice? Why did it take so many years for them to catch on?

They said they would do more testing -- testing what? They already know the minimum level of arsenic/day/kg of body weight that produces no discernable rise in cancers. (about 3.0 micrograms--that's/day/kg body weight) and they know how much arsenic is in a typical serving of brown rice (average 4.2 micrograms -- Lundberg, anyway)

Simple math tells me I can eat a whole lot of rice before I'll see any problems -- more than I'd ever want to eat.

So . . .after they did their testing, they come out with -- it's not a problem, go ahead and eat your rice. (but not until after everyone is scared silly of rice.)

Even though the FDA says go ahead and eat your rice, popular mags are still coming out with warnings like consumer reports' point system, which would limit a kid to a couple rice cakes a week. (of course, you have to pay for consumer reports in order to get a copy of their point system)

NONE of this makes sense to me -- not the warnings, not the hoopla, and not the continuation of the warnings in popular mags despite the FDA admitting that there were no WMD's, I mean arsenic overload, in the first place.

Can anyone shine light on this for me?

The only explanations I can think of are:
Someone at the FDA hates the Lundbergs.
Or someone said, "How can we freak out all the grainolas? Hmmmm. . . let's see, what do they eat a lot of? Brown rice--isn't that all they eat? Let's tell them brown rice is poison! That would be hilarious."

Any enlightenment would be appreciated. And if this belongs in another forum, just let me know and I'll move it.

Comments (5)

  • Kimmsr
    9 years ago

    All plants uptake varying amounts of Arsenic which, apparently, is part of Ma Natures way of giving the plants some means of insect control.

  • pnbrown
    9 years ago

    What I have read is that the Lundberg rice has likely the lowest levels of any rice grown in the world. I have also read that the main issue for rice grown in north america is that grown on the former cotton and tobacco lands, for example in AK, MS, LA, TX, etc, which are supposedly still loaded with arsenic from the pesticides.

    Who knows? I have always eaten Lundberg OG brown rice, and will continue to do so.

  • wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana
    9 years ago

    I read things from Jon Barron who is a chemist. He is basically saying that foods from reliable sources are not to be feared.

    The last part of the link below talks about arsenic.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Heavy metals

  • User
    9 years ago

    Most of the "bad" arsenic is on the outside of the rice anyway, not the inside...and most of that comes from soil/water splatter or wind blown soil sources in high contamination areas.

    If you don't know or fear your source, a quick rinse in cold water just before dropping it into the pot to cook can clear away a majority of it without ruining the rice.

  • elisa_z5
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thanks for the link, wayne.

    And nc -- that makes sense, that the inorganic would be on the outside, the organic arsenic on the inside (mostly).
    We used to always rinse rice -- can easily go back to that.

    We've been eating Lundberg OG too. When this story first came out I thought -- just buy from CA and be done with it. The new Consumer Reports "point" system is what threw me. Maybe they're just out to sell some memberships using fear?

    Thanks for the info, all.

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