Will- The reviews are great. I really appreciate them. Are you familiar with Evergreen Nursery? I have placed several orders from them in the last year and have been wonderfully pleased. They don't have the largest selection, but they do have some uncommon species, and what they offer is top notch size, quality, and price. They have terrific service as well. Darren does all that he can to help, and does it in a very timely manner. You might want to check them out. Eliot P.S. I have no interest in Evergreen Nursery, I'm just one very satisfied customer. Same goes for Girard Nursery. I only live a couple of hours from them and hope to make it up to visit this year. I started buying from them about the same time as Evergreen. Can't wait to see your review for Girard's as well. Here is a link that might be useful: Evergreen Nursery

Division was carried out extensively 20 years or so ago when there were a small number of named clones from Helen Ballard, Eric Smith, Linda Davenport, Robin White and a few others. In the mid 80s and 90s others picked up the breeding reins and seed strains were developed, Elisabeth Strangman, Ashwood and others to the point where it is much cheaper and easier to produce healthy hybrid plants of a known line of breeding to produce reds, greens, yellows, whites, etc then going on to all the doubles and semi doubles.... If you have a particular plant you feel you must divide then you will find instructions here on the archives....simply put, divide just after the flower season before the new growth is coming up, Take care not to let the roots dry out, the white roots are more important than the black. Wask the soil off so you can see what you're doing. Divide into large chunks with at least 3-4 growing eyes each, single splits will likely be blind for at least a season after division, bigger clumps will give good ongoing results. Replant quickly into a well prepared, enriched, deep soil, the extra benefit of good feeding will quickly overcome the shock of lifting and division. A big plant is quite a task to divide, I only divide when they get to be too big, 20" or so across at the crown, it's a major task, just to lift them and even more work to cut them up, I take 6-8 divisions off the outside of the plant and throw the centre away, it's like a block of wood. Don't bother dividing small plants, you risk losing the divisions. Don't try dividing the species, when you know lots about them they still die on you when divided. The niger hybrids benefit from division every 3-4 years, again when you know enough about these you'll know what and when to do. Cheers Greenmanplants

Sorry, Patti. I didn't think to mention that I had spoken to them last year when they were done shipping for the year. They update their website, which gives their current roses of 2017. They grow over 200 varieties, but apparently only offer so many at a time. I suppose if one called, they may offer others. Sam and Ritausma, that is thrilling that you've dealt with them before. I would also be interested if any of your small growers do mail-order, Sam. I just wonder how many others we're missing.

Thanks for the info! Glad to know another nursery has gal plants plus good prices. :-)