Someday, some way, I'm going to get out to California to see all the lovely rose and iris gardens. You all are so lucky. I decided to keep my Julia Child surprises. They sent it 2 day express, and didn't charge me shipping, and the roses were just 10.95 apiece, and they were in gallon pots and very healthy looking. I looked at last year's pics of Julia and that is the most floriferous rose I had (to use Wayside's favorite term) so I didn't need much more to convince me more is better. I remember seeing a grouping of Julia Child at the Tulsa rose garden and it was just smashing. She's a smaller rose, and that buttery yellow is actually a calming hue that blends well with other colors. After reading how many more everyone else gets, I thought, hey...it's only 2...right? And I've already planted my other 51 new ones. Your descriptions and lists keep enabling me....will work for roses...forget food... Cindi

Hortico has a new shipment of them that they got from another supplier just last week. I don't know what the rootstock is, or where they got it from; Amanda just said they had "out-sourced" it. I have one going out next week with my last order of the season. It's to replace the mis-marked one I got last yr. I can't wait to get it. Anyway, you might email them and ask about it.

Rochester, when I first saw your two pics, I thought Claude Monet, but I didn't post until I looked at some pics of RDC. I've had two Claude Monets for maybe 6 years, taken as cuttings from the SJHRG. Your first pic is typical of Claude's new blooms, the second one typical of more faded ones. Before I posted, I went to HMF and that RDC rose seemed to have really scalloped edges that your rose doesn't, which was why I suggested Claude. Holy moly Hoov, my Claudes have never ever been that intense in color! Are you sure you actually have Claude Monet? It's not just the intensity of the colors, but the specific form of the stripes that makes me wonder about the identity of your rose. BTW, it's a beautiful rose. I just don't think it's Claude Monet. I'm curious why most of the pics of RDC on HMF show such deeply scalloped edges (most from Europe and which presumably are actually RDC), and yet some of you still think that Roch's rose is RDC, and not Claude Monet. The CRL lists Claude Monet as a HT/F. Mine definitely bloom in clusters with short stems typical of floribundas. The blooms are pretty big though, hence the HT/F dilemma. Kinda the same deal with Kanegem and several others. Very interesting discussion! Susan

Kathy, I can relate to your post on many points, esecially to do with Double Delight, a fragrant beauty, but not qute beyond compare. I have three right now and I did have a quadro of standards of Double Delight, before deer devistation. But you are right it is a fabulous rose. I do believe though, that in the fragrance sector, that Crysler Imperial, Sharifa Asma, Pink Peace, Abraham Darby, Brother Cadfael, and the newer Frederik Mistral are at LEAST on par in that department.........and all VERY beautiful too. Hope you know some or all of these roses. If not, I highly recommend each and every one. Just my own personal opinion. But I never would doubt your words on Double Delight, a wonderful rose. I need more than three if I can juggle my spaces around.:) Pauline - Vancouver Island