Fenius....Wow, good for you pal! I am about to go on a shopping spree too..lol. You should see how many Hoya's I have added to my collection within the past mnonth.lol Robert: How's the plant looking these days? Thanks for ths info on that book. Very thoughtful of you:-) Who would of thought there was that many night fragrant blooms?! Some of which I never thought to smell at night. I know why now certain plants didn't smell good by day. By the way, I remember standing in my neighbors driveway one night smelling the most intense sweetness I ever smelled. Do you know what I followed the scent to? A humungus Hoya! That triggered something in me that night. Greengirl..We are all with you on your journey! I hope it's a fun ride for you. Rosey..You are not kidding! I even have bukllfrogs there the size of cats. It is very easy to accidently step on one of them and take a good fall! The bats, I did not enjoy for sure. Getting ready for the Orchid Show? God knows we could use some sunshine and flowers in our lives lately, something that reminds us of spring! Mike:-)

Andrew, PS. Sonia does have great plants as I have bought from her several times. Since I have known John for a long time I generally buy directly from him, but sometimes Sonia finds a rare one so I just get it from her as she takes good care of her plumies. Gina is one of my fav's I have 3 of them. The first one I bought from John was when he brought them in from Thailand and paid about 150.00 for a 3 tipper in a 6" pot. Also I never keep multiples of the same variety so I really love Gina..lol The other thing is depending on the heat and temps you have during supper Jenny, and Jackie may not take on its look with the coloring or curling of the petals Here is a pic of Jackie blooming last season in my cooler coastal area, pic was taken in late Aug: Pics of other Jungle Jacks plumeis you got from my cooler patch: Elsie without heat in mid June Christina cooler temp first blooming Blooming in Sept when temps where in the upper 80s Gina Taken in warmer temp in Sept Jenny without heat in late June in my costal area Jenny in heat Penang Peach in late June when its cooler Smith Candy Apple is a good one for cooler areas and good growth habit. Pic from cooler June Samirie with heat Samirie needs some heat to pop, with out heat Lava Flow in cooler temps in June So basically some plumies require heat and bright bright sun to look like the pics sometimes. If you live in an area that has cooler summers or near the coast you need to be more selective. Here are a few other plumies that do not perform well in cooler areas. Purple Jack (looks pink, unless you have heat) University Hawaii Orange Emmersons Pink Nova (the white eye will not appear or pop without sun and heat) Flames of the sun Bonnie Fox Dane Madam Poni Wild Fire only stays red never gets deep Ruby Gold Heart of Gold Thai Peach, etc.

FYI: There's a WIP (work in progress) by Tex Norwood and others notable plumerians to catalog photos and descriptions - see plumeriaid.com. He's also put together a community-driven plumeria portal (also WIP) at plumeriasales.com, which includes sales, trades, events, docs, etc. Much of this is being driven by several Facebook groups (both public and hidden). As always, Laura, thanks for the kind words, and hope to see you out here again some day. In the interest of being a good end user, it's useful to define requirements before designing the solution (ha- too many years in high tech). What do I want to accomplish? 1 - from the description and photos, decide if I interested 2 - prevent duplicates due to AKAs or 'very similar' 3 - decide if it is suitable to my growing conditions 4 - make recommendations 5 - ID unknowns (with usual caveats) 6 - understand risks (e.g. BT, bud drop, vitality) Flower description - PSA has certainly defined the language and process, as have the Oz folks. However, this applies to the 'One True Bloom'. There's certainly more that can be added, but it does provide an excellent vetted baseline for what the flower should look like. ID an unknown - providing a best-guess of a named variety requires much more info: back of bloom, leaf, bark color, etc. That's where we need much more baseline info. Add to that the zillions of unnamed plants. However, if you purchase from a reputable dealer / hobbyist, there's a good chance it was a named variety, and can be ID'd. To root or not to root: which varieties should / must be grafted, and which ones make good graft hosts. Nice to know info: 'parentage' so when getting seeds I know which produced winners; 'source' for tracking down a rare plant or to give credit for some awesome new ones. I think it would be very cool to be able to bring up photos of known seedlings. Permutations - This is a biggie: whether regional, heat/cold related, humidity, it's easy to see that blooms can look completely different due to growing conditions. Capture that info, it's very useful. This is my personal axe to grind, and why each of my plants gets 3 bloom cycles to prove itself. If my notes say 'needs heat', I don't even get the plant. The list Laura refers to is a tracking file: # tips, if it bloomed, # inflos, BT, source, and so on. At the end of every year, I ruthlessly ponder, thin the herd and send selected plants to a new (usually warmer) home. BTW, if anyone wants a copy of my notes, just drop me a pm. irun5k et al: I'm chatting with a few non-GWers to gauge both the level of interest, feasibility and willingness to contribute (important!). Love your comments. ivysmon: thanks for unleasing this discussion, and to answer your original question, here's my notes, and note the contradictions due to growing conditions... Bill Moragne, Sr. #156 AKA William Moragne Sr. William Moragne, Bill Moragne, Sr. Pink, elliptical moderately overlapped petals, 2 ½ to 3”. Upturned inner edges and heavy dark pink veins. Petals blend from dark pink to white. Red-purple stripes on the reverse and a yellow eye. Strong grape fragrance. Keeping quality is good with an average tendency to fade. Tall grower with thick branches. Can be difficult to root. Should be grafted. Branching is below average. Oblanceolate leaves are medium green with acuminate tips. Pod parent: Daisy Wilcox. Pollen parent: Scott Pratt. 2 1/2-3" pink rainbow with grape cool aid fragrance. Striking multi-rainbow color with rounded petals about 3 - 3 ½”. Develops one of the biggest flower heads. Extremely difficult to root. Cuttings are almost impossible to root. Incredibly large clusters. Medium tree. The inflorescence is huge! Very beautiful rainbow with heavy veining. brilliant pinks, white and golds. Fragrance is sweet and intense. Grows fast and strong. Wonderful addition to anyone's collection. 4" and blooms in tight bunches. Recommended for fragrance. Needs to be well established to bloom. Varies depending on humidity and heat. Pale almost like a Mardi Gras until heat/humidity turns it red. Bill was married to Jean. His daughter in law was Jeannie. His daughters were Mary M. Cooke, Sally M. Mist, and Katie M. Bartness. The granddaughters were" Edi (Cooke), Julie (Cooke), Cindy, Kimi, Cathy and Kelly. Slow grower.

You asked for guesses, and that's exactly what this is, Connie, a WILD guess! Could it possibly be a variegated dogwood? I thought of this only because it's pretty commonly found at local garden centers, and from when I was occasionally involved with nursery sales, a lot of people seemed to be attracted to it. I don't remember exactly, but I'm thinking the leaves might be bigger than you're describing, but check out the pic and google it for more pics to see if there's any resemblance. There are different varieties with somewhat varying variegations, so if it looks close, but no cigar, it could be a different variety. Also, if you live near a "real" garden center, you might consider taking a small piece of branch in to get it identified. When you figure out what it is, let us know! Skybird Here is a link that might be useful: Variegated dogwood