Sorry I just saw this post! No! they re hardy to zone 8 or 9 I believe. Definitely they cannot be planted in the ground over the winter. I got mine from Richter's . I keep them outside from mid - May to the mid -October, then I bring them indoors and keep them in the unheated portion of the basement in a semi-dormant state. During winter, they need cool night temperatures below 12 degrees C in order to bloom the next season. It took me a few years to get them to bloom since the plants were quite tiny when I received them and then, when they were mature enough to bloom, I did not have any idea that they needed this cooling period before they did. No matter the effort they give me a lot of pleasure. With a little bit of patience they can be grown even here.

Ariel, I am glad you are coming. You have some really cool plants to trade. Your yard must be amazing. I would love any of the items below that are available. I'm sorry the list is so long (Please feel free to edit it) but you have such neat stuff. Please let me know what you would like from my list. - Any bananas - Helianthus angustifolius - bulbine - yellow/orange - chinese rain bells - salvia- coral nymph - salvia iodantha - orange tulip ginger - green mountain ginger - Kewense ginger Thank you, Judy

Lol Mike.. This forum is very addictive for all of us :) I am just controlling myself to jump and buy Brugs after seeing the pics and description of its scent! But once spring comes they are in my list. You will love the angulare jasmine. The plant is so delicate looking and the flowers are so pretty. Out of all the south african varieties I have grown (j.multipartitum, j.tortuosum) this one has the most beautiful flowers. Almost reminds me of the Indian cork tree flower.

Thanks, Dar. I was wondering if J. grandiflorum would have the musky undertones like J. officinale. It was hard deciding on which jasmine to choose. I really like the large petals of the single J. grandiflorum that Logee's offers however the glowing review from a customer on their site about 'Flora Plena' swayed me. Now that I know it smells similar to gardenias I'm glad I chose this one! And forget J. odoratissimum, Kem! You'd probably end up with some lightly scented clone (though the fruity scent description on TT sounds right up your alley!). What about Jasminum simplicifolium subsp. australiense (Syn.: Jasminum volubile, wax jasmine)? Kartuz's site says it has a wonderful strong scent. Anyone ever grow/sniff this one? It's on my list! :) -Robert