Thank you all! Jeri, "in theory" I would be able to import from Australia, at least budwood. But I didn't know how to do it. Have you any idea? ;o) Mr Ruston maybe can be helpful. I would also love to import budwood from USA, maybe via UK or France: all those striking found roses and Bermuda's....! Actually we have (in the rose nursery I'm working for as a advisor) a pretty good list of Clark's creatures, and we are triyin' to enlarge the collection. Now, we have available for trade the following: 'Flyng Colours' - 'Jessie Clark' - 'Nancy Hayward' - 'Pennant'- 'Squatter's Dream' .... and few others not yet introduced for the commerce, like 'Tonner's Fancy'. I'm happy to add to the list my 'Alister Clark' and Lorraine Lee. Luxrosa, I was really attracted by 'Borderer', and foud 'Alister Clark', who seem to be quite similar to 'Borderer' both in growth habit and flower shape. I'm goin' to plant my 'Susan Louise' tomorrow(she's already showing a juicy bud, happy little band...), and I'm really excited to see how she will perform this year. :o) Thank you Ann and thank you Odissey for informations :o)! Melissa, let me know more in the future about your Lorraine; La Campanella also have her, mine come from them. I've read so many entusiastic comments about this Rose, especially about her reflowering, vigor and beauty of the bush, that, even if pictures of it are sometimes disappointing, showing a "dull" flower shape and colour, I'm really curious and hopeful! The young foliage developing is very good at this moment... we'll see. Obviousely, if anyone have a good picture to share... ;o) Ciao! Maurizio

Please use the April post,thank you. Ron S

Thank you all for your very immediate responses, I think I'm convinced crepuscule is the way to go - 2 1/2 metres tall by 4 long (cimmaron above) is ok, it'll at least get up the top of the arch and its length should cover over. Or maybe I could plant it sideways! Joking, of course. and a bit of B.S., a bit's not a bother. On the Banksian, I knew it was big rose, really too big for the average archway and that I'd I have to prune away each year and that it isn't recurrent, so I think I'll repot that one and keep it for another spot somewhere. Thanks again and good gardening to all.

There are more than a handful of old books that are available free online via Google Books and other such sources. I think someone posted a link in an earlier thread that directed online users to quite a few old rose e-books... I'll try to relocate it. For my birthday, my husband is giving me used copies of 'In Search of Old Roses' (I know- how can I not have read this already?), and Ethelyn Keays' 'Old Roses', a book that Jeri has recommended, and that- from bits I've read online- I know is well-written and engaging. A book I already have- really, the only rose-related book I have- is the previously mentioned 'Noisette Roses: 19th Century Charleston's Gift to the World', and if you have any interest in Noisettes, it is a worthwhile read. Two other books I hope to obtain are 'Wild and Old Garden Roses' by Gordon Edwards and 'Tea Roses: Old Roses for Warm Gardens' by the Australian 'Tea Bag Ladies'. Much of its text is available online, but I want the physical book with pictures... Here is a link to a bookstore that sells old books about roses, and there may be something listed here that 'calls to you': http://www.oldroses.com A good source for used books in general is http://www.abebooks.com Let us know what you find to read! Virginia