I "found" her at a cemetery..it wasn't in bloom at the time..but I was intrigued because of the foliage and thorn arrangement..thought it might be special. I just looked it up on HMF..and you are right..that is my rose..I am going to enjoy growing this rose! I took the cuttings 2 summers ago, and this is the first bloom I've seen..and lots of them!! Thanks...Donna

Thank you for your very helpful answer! I will bear that in mind for the future. I'm still trying to decide upon roses to grace this fence (to buy when funds permit... :((( ), and wasn't sure what to choose beyond Viking Queen. Thanks to your comment I think at this point I'd either choose Blossomtime or Parade (highly recommended by Vintage). Oh, and as to the name for the rose (the topic of this post)? I think from what I read at HelpMeFind there is one way to distinguish for sure between Blossomtime & Viking Queen. That is, now and again (on the same plant) Blossomtime will simultaneously put forth flowers of classic hybrid tea shape, and also flowers that are so full of petals they're quartered. vettin, has the rose in question ever produced flowers so full of petals the flowers are quartered in appearance?

This sounds like Coral Vine or Queen's Wreath. I produces sprays of either light pink or deep rose flowers during the warm months, however it is deciduous. Take a look at the link below to be sure. Anyone else have ideas? Here is a link that might be useful: Coral Vine or Queen's Wreath

I followed a link here from the Antique Rose forum, and posted a response there. I'm posting it again here, with a brief addition as to why it isn't a chimera. Chimeras result when an organism is composed of a mix of cells deriving from more than one zygote (fertilized egg). When you have a plant derived from asexual reproduction (as rose cultivars all are -- they are clones of an original plant), then every individual will thus have cells deriving from that first zygote. There may be mitotic errors (mistakes in cell copying) which can result in "sports" as seen in the third pic in the first post, but no plant grown from a cutting will contain genetic information from a different plant than the original (excepting, of course, for plants grown on a different rootstock, but in this case, there will be a delineation between one plant and the other at the graft union -- there will be no single branch or root which contains cells of both plants mixed together). Below is my response on the other thread: It's not a chimera -- that term gets tossed around incorrectly quite often. What this is is an example of a partial reversion or sporting -- there are pictures on HelpMeFind for 'Quatre Saisons Blanc Mousseau' showing similar partial reversions even within one flower. My thoughts on most "sports" is that they are not actually genetic mutations, but rather changes in how the genes are expressed, which is passed on via vegetative propagation (and also breeding, if the change in genetic expression is a result of methylation or a similar epigenetic phenomenon that is maintained in germ cells). The way it would work is like this -- when you see a branch "sporting" to a different flower color, or with the addition of moss, or into a climbing version, what you're seeing is genes present in the plant as a whole which are now expressed to a greater (or lesser) degree because of the arrangement of the DNA within the cells. But the actual sequence of genes remains the same. To give a simple explanation -- think of the genes as a list of ingredients in a recipe. The level of expression would be comparable to the quantities for each ingredient in the complete recipe. When a plant "sports" according to my idea, the ingredients don't change, but the quantities do. So if the recipe originally lists "eggs" and the quantity expressed is usually "2 eggs", a "sport" would result when, for whatever reason, the cell starts putting "4 eggs" into the recipe. This is a normal part of cell differentiation -- all our cells (except RBCs and eggs/sperm) contain all the same genes, but vary in the degree to which particular genes are expressed. This differentiation is usually fixed in most cells, with some exceptions. In plants, there is more flexibility regarding differentiation, allowing us to induce root cells to form on branches. It's probable that this "flexibility" leaves plants more prone to "sporting" than are animals. This change can result from proteins attached to the DNA strand, or methyl-group molecules, increasing or decreasing transcription rates of certain sections of the DNA. These changes can (but not always) be transmitted to offspring produced by sexual reproduction, but are most easily maintained in plants via asexual reproduction (i.e. taking a cutting of the "sported" branch). :-) ~Christopher