Mme Isaac Periere

Woodlands

21 years ago

Glad to hear MIP came good for you, Brissy, as she is such a beautiful rose. I planted one each side of an arch 4 or 5 years ago. I only had a couple of flowers the first year but she just keeps getting better each year. Mine are looking the best ever at the moment. Enjoy her.

Hazel.

Hunty

21 years ago

Brissy,
The same story here...I bought one last year and she grew okay but no blooms, I cut all my roses to about knee high in the winter and she came up beautifully and gave me aabout 10 blooms right away....can't quite understand but it is a beautiful plant and won't be getting the chop.
Cheers,
Hunty

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Thank you Melinda, BelleGallica and Ingrid for your replies. Melinda - your BN is looking fabulous! Well done! And Belle Gallica, yes, I do find the reports about thorny-ness and notoriously unreliable. Another rose I've ordered - Cl. Devoniensis - has been described as 'almost thorn free' as well as 'a thorny devil', so I guess I'll just have to wait and see. Although lack of thorns would be a bonus, the most important things for me in this space would be colour, repeat and fragrance, as it's a fairly prominent spot in my yard. Ingrid - thanks for your input regarding summer exposure. The spot I have in mind for MIP and MEC will receive a lot of sun in summer too, but I've found that bourbons in my yard (well, to be fair, I only have one bourbon - Kathleen Harrop) need plenty of sun to overcome disease, mainly powdery mildew. I don't know how my climate compares to yours, but I live in an elevated location with average summer temps of between 70 and 80 degrees F in summer, with only about 3 weeks worth of days in the 100s. We also get about 12 days of rain each month over summer, with yearly rainfall between 1000-1500mm (40-60 inches) per year. Which is great for my water bill, but it can also lead to disease. So I know some of the blooms will crisp during the really hot periods, but I think overall a sunnier site for mildew-y roses would be preferable. What do you think?

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I love MIP to death, but she is not for people who like clean foliage. I never spray, so she was always covered in BS. I still forgave her though, just for those blooms. I could die inside one of them and be happy. Never could get her to repeat though, and I grew that rose in three different locations. She fried in my yard in Tampa, did better when I was living in Citrus County, and even better the three years I was in northern Georgia. But no repeat bloom. I always wondered if anyone else could get her to repeat.

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Very nice, Matthew! Wish my Tiffany blooms looked like yours right now, it's gorgeous!

scubamid

21 years ago

Maybe she is responsive to threats. Mine did nothing after planting out from the pot last year so this year I pruned her right down, dug her up to check her roots all ok and put her back in as a bare root. Now she is doing well and flowering beautifully.
cheers
Judy

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I think MIP likes to get herself nicely established before she will think about flowering. Mine took awhile before she did much more than grow. She was next to a climbing frame I had for Gloire de Dijon. GdD decided to turn up its toes and MIP decided she would like the climbing frame for her own use, so I've let her. She had gone over the top of the frame and is cascading down the side with flowers all along her canes, but it took her about 3 years to get this good.
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21 years ago

Mine is in her 2nd year with not a flower last yr but heaps of black spot. Let's hope this year will be better tho I suspect she's not getting enough sun & may have to move her.

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Sorry girls. Bourbons being derived from the Damasks carry enormous potential for Blackspot, especially the "softer" Bourbons, Malmaison, La Reine Victoria and Mme Pierre Oger, and Mme Isaac. Triforine every month regularly for control. It's so good and effective to be regular isn't it?

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Well mystery solved at my place. My glorious mislabel is, I am confident, MIP. Same story here, she just grew away happily last year. This years flowers starting and they're indistinguishable from the mislabel bush. Big smiles now sure I've a spare in the garden, as I'll lose the mislabel when demo eventually occurs.

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