I heard from Suzanne that Lynn won HT Queen with Marilyn Monroe and Jeff Stage won Mini Queen. I didn't go either Connie as my roses aren't blooming. Hopefully I will have something for the PSWD.

Thanks so much Charles, Carrie and Harold! Charles, I can't wait to see when you can post a link to your absolutely stunning orchids. Believe me, those rose folks would be swarming your gallery, I am sure of this. If we are so lucky to have you revisit, start a new thread along with your neighbor's next set of roses with the orchids as part of the title, and I bet you'll have some rose-converts who want to grow orchids as well after seeing your magnificent photos. Harold, LOL! hurray, we've got Lana's Folklore and! now we will both have our lovely Geminis! Here is a second set of photos from Gemini. I forgot! to post my photos of Aromatherapy. For some reason, LOL I always forgot one rose bush when I post! LOL! Aromatherapy is either lavender pink or bubblegum pink depending on the weather usually. Neither can it make up its mind on what size to bloom. It's either large sized or regular medium-sized blooms.

Dr. Huey rootstock has taken over whatever rose was originally there. Dr. Huey is rather charming rambler type, but has the following deficiencies: once-bloomer (spring), post blooming develops the worst case of BS you'll probably ever see, followed by complete defoliation. The following spring, the same pattern will be repeated, and so on. Although some people grow it as part of their garden, most rose gardeners dig it out and replace it with that rose they've been longing for, you know, the one that makes their heart sing. I say follow that lead. : ) Kate

I'll try to comment thou I'm only in northern Illinois. wirosarium (sp), has some Kordes roses and perhaps will see this. The one problem is that some of these are new to the state but some have been around for quite a while. I grow all of mine own root as that is what does best in my yard. When planting I place the rose so that where the branches start too form is about two inches under ground. Other than that I don't winter protect. Late fall winds usually blow leaves that catch on the bushes and I leave those where they have blown. I would not be afraid to plant most Kordes in zone4 but thats me. I have a few that are tip hardy mostly from the vigorosa and baconia groups. Don't think they sell baconia here now I got mine from Northland Rosarium back when Carol had them. I wish they would bring this group back. They are fabulous roses. The Veranda roses are vigorous and in my opinion should do well. They won't be cane hardy but crown hardy just plant deeply. In this series I have Cream, Jolie, Brilliant and Roxanne. Will get Chica when I find it. Blush will not open flowers in my zone and Brilliant will black spot but love it to much to care. It resides in my hot color flower bed. The Fairy Tale series should grow in zone4. I have had all except Red Riding Hood. Shovel prune Brothers Grimm did not care for faded flower look. Best of the group for me Floral FT and Golden FT. Love these Floral FT as an own root is short front of bed rose. Golden FT is a 5 foot rose here. They are not cane hardy but crown hardy and like the Verandas are very vigorous and return year after year. Kolorscape series vigorous and crown hardy should grow for you. I have all except Cheri and it's coming in spring. They are all beautiful and healthy roses. Biggest flowers on Lemon Fizz and Fire Opal. Sorry to talk so much when I'm not in the zone you asked for. I'm hoping you get answers from zone4. One plug for Innocensia because its tip hardy after the worst polar winter. Short compact growth and easy for underplanting by larger roses.