Both very pretty Jan,
First time I have seem the 4th July its so different.
A nice looking red also..Cheers..MM.

Both are lovely Jan the first one is the same colour as the Delbard rose I bought which has a bud I look forward to finally see it
Jan.

Both exquisite. 4th july very interesting. Look forward to the next one too to see how the swirls differ.

A couple of pretty rose.
Heather

Should buy that one as it is my birthdate!! Trouble is I am not too keen on stripes, pity they couldn't have arranged a few stars to go with the stripes.

Funny girl.
JWB

Strangely enough Jan, I am attracted to the Fourth of July - is it a climber Jan?
I don't normally like striped roses, but that one has taken my fancy.
Both lovely roses are quite lovely!
LOL Tricia.
Mary

Yes Mary it is a climber only in it's second year a bit slow growing but it is different.
JWB