HillRock's trees are planted in 2011. They already form a hedge now. What happens in 5 years? It looks like his trees are near the fence. So the trees do not receive full sun, but they receive regular irrigation (near the house). So the vegetative growth is very good. With the hot climate, the trees should have near optimal vegetative growth. I posted a picture before about a jujube tree in Dallas area. It covers the entire backyard of a house. I used to pick jujube fruits in that yard. The owner said they planted, probably in 1970s. I believe there is a 40' large jujube tree in Fort Worth Botanic Garden. I've not seen it. I think native jujube grows wild in China. With the root suckering and the spread of the seeds, they spread by themselves. They grow about 20' in the wild, mostly on hills. Cultivated trees grow larger. If planted near residence, they grow even larger. All my fruit trees are spaced at least 15' in row and 18 to 20' between rows. They are mostly semi-dwarf. I tried to space them 20x20, but it was just hard to do that way. If the trees are truly dwarf (apple in particular), then of course they can be spaced very closely. I've seen my local U-Pick orchard does that with their apple trees. But the peach trees are all standalone, about 20-25' large.

I had never heard of JuJube, other than Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver, asking "You have any Jujus? They last longer." I got to looking to read more about them. If the name "Jujube" wasn't funny enough for a fruit, then I found that latin name of "Ziziphus" is shared with one of the Lazuli Mob on "Meerkat Manor", which is my favorite show of all times after "The Wire". I could not find anyone selling the Winter Delight variety, but some sellers had unnamed varieties for sale for about $40 Some eBay sellers have JuJube seeds for sale. I just bought 6 seeds for $3 including shipping. I don't know what variety, but it wasn't much money to waste. If you are as interested as I was and want to read more about Jujube fruit, here is the wikipedia link for Ziziphus zizyphus Jujube http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jujube I love odd fruits that we don't normally see in the grocery stores in the U.S. The Jujube fruit are one of the coolest I've seen since I read about Jabuticaba earlier this spring. They look like muscadines that grow on the trunk of the tree rather than on the tips of branches like most other fruit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabuticaba That still leaves a cold hardy Mayhaw on my list of uncommon fruit I'm looking to grow.

Here's a photo of a winter veggie garden in Vancouver. I'm aware that Vancouver grows winter veggies for the homeless which is a good idea. This photo may give you a few ideas for winter gardening. Welcome to a world made for gardening fanatics. Cheers Here is a link that might be useful: Winter veggies in Vancouver

Well, what-d-ya-know, I just noticed I took a pic of this (or the other one in the garden) back in May. Guess I'm getting old, or I've got too many grevilleas. I think it's too many grevilleas.