looking to get a cutting i have pepper seeds as well as common hoyas i also have some adenium seedlings about 4-6 inches tall thanks

Welcome to the forum. Most Hoyas are easy growers if you understand how they grow in nature. Most species are epiphytes with wind dispersed seeds just like their relatives the milkweeds. Hoya habitats range from constantly moist to seasonally dry depending on the what part of the world they come from and what habitat. Some areas even follow a double monsoon cycle so they will have two wet periods separated by a dry period. Other Hoyas can spend months under quite dry conditions that would outright kill the species that enjoy less harsh conditions. The good thing about Hoyas is that as long as you follow a few guide lines most species will do well and if need be you can adjust the light, water or other conditions to suit a certain species. Potting mix - Most growers use a mix based on orchid bark or coconut hush chips that have been rinsed well for several days minimum to remove salts or an inorganic component like expanded clay beads or turface. You can add potting soil to the mix but added perlite will help keep it open, epiphytes usually hate soggy conditions and a fairly quick wet to dry cycle is the aim. Promix type mixes can also be used but again it's good to open them up with added chunky perlite or bark. If you are a heavy waterer a mix made of pure orchid bark also works. Most growers use plastic pots because clay can dry too fast and in the heat of the summer you will be watering constantly. Light - Hoyas will do well in bright indirect light but there are a few that enjoy shade and a few more that want full sun. I grow most of my plant in sunny south facing windows but that is because those are the windows I have available. An East window or a shaded West window would work and even a North window will be fine for the shade lovers. I have a Hoya lacanosa that grows at least ten feet from the nearest window and it does just fine. From the sounds of it you have been caring for your Hoyas correctly. Hoya serpens enjoys more moisture and a cooler position. Hoya cummnagiana likes moist conditions and very bright light. Hoya cummangiana is often seen in pretty much full sun growing along road cuts in the Philippines and without intense light it will not bloom. You should aim for compact growth with little stem between the leaves and if the leaves get a red margin then you are right where the plant wants to be to bloom. Some Hoyas are truly slow to grow and many species will slowly develop a root system for up to a year after being rooted from a cutting. Once a cutting settles in some cases it will grow a new vine very quickly and then fill that out with leaves so don't chop anything off. I think most of us on the form have quite a mix of species because some take years to grow and bloom while others are much faster. Many species are beautiful even without blooms and they can be used to fill in a collection of Hoyas. Hoyas seem to be especially attractive to mealy bugs so you need to keep an eye out for white cottony masses on the stems and leaves. If you do notice any let us know and we can give you suggestions to try and get rid of them. Sites like Hoyor.net, growinghoyas.com or MyHoyas are great places to learn about these plants. I will put a link to one of the Thai collectors who has made the Stemma Journal issues available for download. Stemma Journal was a free Hoya magazine that was available online, this was the best place for hobby growers to get Hoya info and I would recommend reading the issues when you have time. The issues cover potting, propagation and discuss how Hoyas are grouped as a genus. Mike Here is a link that might be useful: Apodagis site with Stemma at the bottom of the page

LOL Jan, Yeah I have had the hoya bugs for a while now, but with having been pregnant and then having to have an emergency c-section and all, I held off on splurging til after recovery and all that. I have the varigated Kerri and that one seems to be doing pretty good so far, LOL. Thanks for the tip:) Hugs Meesh

I can only comment on imperialis since I don't have the others.....*yet*. I am an apartment dweller, and imperialis does really well for me. It has grown a lot since I got it as a cutting a few months ago. I haven't trained it yet, but I don't think it would be a problem to train at all. The stems are strong and thick, so they'd need some help being trained around a trellis, but I really don't see it being difficult to do. I'm curious to see what others say though, because I don't have a full "plant" yet. Good luck choosing! Gabi