Secret Garden Musk Climber is a lovely rose. Here. If high blackspot pressure is common in your area, it could be troubled by that. Moreover, it is a BIG plant. We have a pair of them over an arbor, with a trellis on either side, like wings, and the rose covers all of that. Moreover, it is quite prickly. So I'm thinking that confining it to a trellis against a wall might be a really bloody, continuing battle. Take a look, also, at the images of MATURE plants of Phyllis Bide, on HelpMeFind. I would only try that if there was somewhere for it to go, after it topped the trellising, and if you had lots of room to walk by it. Sally Holmes might be easier to work with in that situation, and it can handle some pruning. Though, it, too, can become quite large, if allowed to do so. Sombreuil can probably do it, but note that your greatest volume of bloom will come from HORIZONTAL canes -- and that it, too, is very, VERY prickly. VERY! See, below, Sally Holmes (L) and SGMC (R) Jeri

If you like damask scent arizsun, you might like to try something I bought at Target, Botanic's Rosewater Toning Spritz, 100% Organic. It was developed with plant extracts from Kew Royal Botanic Gardens. It smells heavenly!!! Very strong damask fragrance. Ingredients: Aqua (water), Alcohol denat, Glycerin, Rosa damascena flower oil, Citronellol. I grow both Rose de Rescht and Pickering Four Seasons. Both have wonderful scent, but both are also smallish plants and don't climb. RdR has the better rebloom. I have a magnificent damask with a powerful fragrance called York and Lancaster which I've grown for over 20 years in partial shade (bottom of plant in full shade, top of plant in full sun most of the day). It is now up on my roof but would only be able to climb with lots of support (wants to be floppy). However there is zero rebloom. You might want to try Portland from Glendora. Wonderful, strong scent. This rose has fairly good rebloom and is quite willing to climb. If you want a headstart in getting it to a large size, I would suggest buying from Antique Rose Emporium in Texas. The shipping can be expensive but that is because they send out such big plants. One of my favorite vendors. Comtesse O'Gorman is a hybrid perpetual that has a heavy, dreamy scent and climbing tendencies. I don't think it is in commerce at present unfortunately. It is red though, not pink. Cl. Chrysler Imperial is another worth considering, if you can find it. It's a climbing hybrid tea with powerful fragrance and a liking for heat. Very good rebloom. I had 2 that perished in a wildfire in 2003. I have been unable to find replacements. :( Another suggestion that you can look up on HelpMeFind is Yolande d'Aragon (I've seen it grow much taller than HMF indicates), Or check out the damask/portland roses at Greenmantle Nursery and give Marissa a call there. She is very knowledgeable. Melissa Here is a link that might be useful: Damask and Portland Roses at Greenmantle

I tried many, many "shade tolerant" roses on the north side of my house. I get full sun for 6 months and shade for 6 months when the sun angle changes with the season, (my house interferes with receiving any direct sun at that time). There are no trees on this side of the house. I have never found a rose that remained happy or healthy in that situation. I don't think you should waste your money putting a rose there. Plant something that is pretty, and that will enjoy that spot. I have camellias planted now that are extremely happy, and look nice all the time. I am sure there are some native bushes, or some other types of plants that would love to be on the north side of your house. Then, if you have the room, plant some roses out in front of those, maybe with a little path in between, if there is some full sun there. The combination can be quite striking. Sandy

Hi Tom, Welcome to the friendliest gardening forum on the web! These people are amazing and so willing to share information, seeds, plants, etc. I have a passionvine (Passiflora caerulea) planted in those exact conditions. It THRIVES!!! Continuous flowering and the flowers are fragrant but you need to get real close to notice. Not a hummingbird attractor but the butterflies like it. I think your most fragrant vines would be the jasmines. And for a hummingbird attractor you can't beat coral honeysuckle. They are all over mine everyday. A combination jasmine and coral honeysuckle would fit your bill. And have you visited floridata dot com? I'll include a link. You can search by type of plant (vine) and then narrow it further by other characteristics. Here is a shot of my passie and honeysuckle. Hope this helps! ~Betsy Here is a link that might be useful: Floridata clicky