Are we done with the gang mentality? I guess I should have put a smiley face after my comment to botann :) ... Admittedly, a mischievous sense of humour did not translate in that post. My point being that I am aware bamboo doesn't grow "in" water and was struck (again) by how some regular members assume most non-regular posters are novice beginners. But since some took the time to formally announce that I will henceforth be ignored, let me ask the following. Why is anyone who is perceived as challenging or disrupting the "regulars" (even on only one or two occasions) immediately labelled a troll or accused of being "fueled by totally opposite considerations"? I have made dozens of posts on this and other forums because of a genuine shared interest I have in those subjects matters. I have on occasion agreed with the oft-expressed opinion that there is a sense of exclusivity among certain regular posters on this forum, and yet this single post is cited as evidence by George and Ink of an enemy in your midst. Actually my goal is more on promoting Japanese Gardens, and encouraging that interest in others - which is why I suggested Flickr to "adopted". It is inspirational to look through the photos on that site. My original post was nothing but complimentary, supportive and encouraging. That said, I do happen to believe that all should be welcome, that this is not the place for a private social club and I believe I am entitled to that opinion. Isn't this is a public space were people of all stages of interest share information? I don't think it's solely a place were a handful of regular posters should have private debates intended for their own amusement. That leads to the gang mentality witnessed above, whereupon internet cliques form and occasional posters, lurkers or "drop-ins" are made to feel like unwelcome outsiders. Just because someone is not a member of the frequent posters club, why under-estimate their knowledge level? Maybe if all queries are answered as though the posters experience is similar to yours, and not 'talked down' to or ignored, it will be a more enjoyable and educational forum for all. So if some of you have hopes of driving me (like others before me) off the forum, so be it. The fact that you attempt to do this, only speaks to the kind of power/control issues at work here (I disagreed with Inkognito on one single occasion, and he now vocally labels me a troublemaker - fragile ego indeed). No single group owns this forum. Anyone is entitled to visit and occasionally I will post - usually in a supportive and encouraging role. I have learned from some of you, and will continue to do so. However, I promise not to ask any more questions of botann for fear I will get another introductory lesson on the rudimentary basics of bamboo. But as I said, it was a very nice pic. He (or she) has got a lovely garden.

Or south Eastern Ohio?

Hi: You should get a notice in your email that I posted this here. It is called 'Lady Margaret', it is usually at Lowes/HomeDepot, in a 3 gallon and 1 gallon pot. I just saw it online at 'almosteden.com', an online plant nursery, for $12.99 plus shipping. And it lists other places to buy it. WalMart included. Don't know the sizes, you need to check that. It grows very fast, the vine is thin and wiry. I would think you could pot it up into a BIG pot, like a 5 gallon bucket?, and put a trellis behind it, and it would grow like up it like a weed. It flowers all year for me. IF Pensacola gets freezing temps, yes you would have to cut it back, and protect the roots, and try to keep some stems alive, till spring. But mine has lived for 5 years now, through temps. of the high 30's, low 40's. But only for like 5 days. Past that, I dont know how long it can handle low temps. Hope this helps.

I sometimes watch it but not in the mode for anything 'super' today LOL. Snow on the boughs of my Redwood 'Soquel'. The plain old American holly berries have been eaten by the birds but so far they are skipping these Highclere Holly 'James G Esson' ones. Fine with me, and Doug Tallamy LOL. (speaking of Tallamy, anybody know what happened to sam_md? It's well known that the 'real' IDs of various people on this forum are known by some members. Perhaps he has departed this mortal coil...if so, we thank him for his contributions to horticulture and our forum) An Abies alba in the foreground with a much larger Abies firma in the background. I will be moving this and another Abies alba from an area they cannot stay any longer. One might be for sale - serious enquiries only. Msg me. I will definitely replant at least one elsewhere on my property. 'Wisley Supreme' with cicada damage still visible on stems.