another thought... prices for plants can vary GREATLY between different geographical areas of the country. EVen from the same store or supplier. Pricing can be vastly different for the same thing. It shouldn't be a big difference for me and Laura, as we both live in the same area, but things can be pretty wild elsewhere. I bought a bamboo palm (Chamaedorea) 2 years ago at a local sale for $7.99 in the 3 gallon comtainer. These palms are extremely cold hardy (to 20 at least) and I had been wanting one for a bit. Now that they have "caught on" nationally and Home Depot is offering them for the whopping price of $69.99!! That is pretty unbelievable to me. Our same local independents have the same palm for $49.99. Prices for other landscape plants can be off the scale as well. We are very lucky to live close to a local grower who sells all types of different alocasias, colocasias and xanthosomas to our 2 local independent nurseries here. I have purchased things like Alocasia plumbea nigra (aka Metallica) in the past, a big heaping full 3 gallon pot, for about $15. I saw the exact same plant in a nursery in Dallas TX that my sister in law took me to for $39.00. I myself used to raise different gingers for the local nurseries when I was operating my nursery, and I can tell you, anything you buy at a nursery is marked up 100%. If I sold them a plant for $5, they charged $10. Unless you go to Home Depot or another box store here, all the orchids are sold by local and regional growers at the independent nurseries on consignment. SO are the bromeliads. We are lucky here to have some great private growers here who sell their stuff on consignment. There is also a local independent food market that sells their things on consignment.

Jerry, I love Morikami gardens. Whenever I go down to South Florida I try to stop by. One thing I did not see at Morikami though was the use of Native Sand Pines (Pinus clausa) in place of the dwarfed pines normally used in Japanese Gardens. The sand pine takes trimming very well. It was once used for Christmas trees, and kept trimmed into neat cones. You can trim them into big bonzai shapes. I haven't done it myself, but I saw of photograph of a beautiful sand pine trimmed this way. I think you can really get the feel of the Japanese garden using easy-care natives and naturalized plants if you just go for the same style of planting. For example, for those low mounding shrubs, you could use coonties. Lots of the native stoppers can be trimmed into picturesque little trees. There is of course a big selection of tropical bamboo. The one problem is finding a substitute for the Japanese maple, which won't grow down there. At Morikami I noticed they were using Firebushes for this effect, but to be honest I wasn't really crazy about it. Finding a deciduous small tree with "fall color" that will work down there would be difficult, but there must be some kind of tropical shrub or small tree with burgundy/reddish leaves. You wouldn't have the change of seasons, but you could have the look. Down where you are you probablly have access to lots of natural Florida limestone rocks too.

Okay, I FINALLY got my lists together! Sorry for the wait folks, but things have been soo busy these last few weeks! Here's what I have for the swap: Plants: *Apple Red Delicious seedling: Perennial, FS & WD soil. *Canna "Yellow King Humbert/Robert Wallace(these got mixed up & cant tell apart until bloom time):Perennial, FS & moist. Yellow & red blooms. *Castor Bean -Red(R. communis 'Carmencita' ): Per. in zones 8-11, FS & WD. Grows fast, red blooms. *Seeds are poisonous. *Coleus (C. blumei) seedlings: Annual/Tender Perennial or houseplant. PS & moist, WD soil. *Crown of Thorns (Euphorbia Milii): Perennial succulent zone 9-11 or houseplant. F/P sun & moderate water. Red blooms. *Daylily (Hemerocallis): Perennial-all zones, F/P sun & moist, WD soil. Orange blooms. *Desert Rose (Adenium obesum) seedlings-Pink: Perennial succulent zone 9-10, or houseplant. FS & moderate water. *Hosta T-Rex: Perennial zone 3-9, Part/morning sun & moist, WD soil. To 30" high. *Hoya Fungii: Perennial houseplant. PS, WD soil. White bloom w/burgundy throat. Fragrant. Hanging basket. *Hibiscus Sunset seedling: Perennial zone 9-10, FS & WD soil. Red & gold bloom. *Paperwhite/Chinese Sacred Lily (Narcissus): Perennial zone 8-11, F/P sun & WD soil. *Plumeria (P. rubra) seedling: Perennial, small succulent tree or container plant. zone 9-11, FS & dry soil. *Spider Plant Variegated (Chlorophytum comosum): Perennial. Houseplant or outdoors in Part sun. White blooms. Cuttings: *Purple Queen (Tradescantia pallida): Perennial zone 8-11, F/P sun, moist -dry. Pink blooms, groundcover or hanging basket. *Purple Jew (Zebrina pendula): Perennial, Part/morning sun. Hanging basket/houseplant. Bulbs/Tubers: *Air Potato Vine(Dioscorea bulbifera): Perennial zone 9-11, F/P sun, drought tolerant. Native to Asia & Africa. ...for my wants, please see my trade list. It was completely updated yesterday.... Here are my answers to the questionaire... About my Garden: a Which of these best describes your DREAM garden: All of the above (including 'Much larger!, LOL) b Which of these describes your REAL garden Chaotic c. What is your garden colour scape All of the above d. My biggest challenge in the garden is: All of the above e. My garden is Non of the above- sunny & tree roots! f. I know I am a plant-aholic because...... I get dirtier than the kids when we go outside to 'play' and if weather's bad/cold, I bring the dirt indoors! Thanks Frances for being patient with me, and thanks for hosting this swap! Here is a link that might be useful: Chellflower's Trade Lists

LOL......probably not the place to post this. Aplogies to Kristy for partial hijack of this thread. Here is a quick cut and paste from an Excel list I keep of what I am growing. It is missing some new additions and it needs to be further updated....but you can kind of get the idea. ananas comosus pineapple Borneo ananas comosus pineapple Royal Hawaiian ananas comosus pineapple Smooth Cayenne ananas comosus pineapple unknown pink a. cherimola x squamosa atemoya geffner a. cherimola x squamosa atemoya geffner a. cherimola x squamosa atemoya geffner a. cherimola x squamosa atemoya Petch Pakchong a. cherimola x squamosa atemoya Petch Pakchong Annona diversifolia ilama Fairchild Annona diversifolia Ilama genova red annona mucosa rollinia seedling annona muricata soursop fiberless graft annona muricata soursop Wilson seedless annona squamosa sugar apple Green annona squamosa sugar apple Red annona squamosa sugar apple Lessard seedling annona squamosa sugar apple Kampong Mauve artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Red morning artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Bangkok Lemon artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Black Gold artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Borneo Red artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Borneo Red artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Dang Rasimi artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Mai 1 grafted artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Mai 2 graft artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Mai 1 seedling artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Mai 3 seedling artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Rien Baht artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Orange Crisp sdlg artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Bk Gldx Tabouey artocarpus heterophyllus jakfruit Tabouey x J30 artocarpus lingnanensis kwai muk seedling averrhoa carambola starfruit Arkin averrhoa carambola starfruit Bell averrhoa carambola starfruit Karri averrhoa carambola starfruit Thai Night averrhoa carambola starfruit Sri Kembangan averrhoa carambola starfruit Fwang Tung averrhoa carambola starfruit Hart averrhoa carambola starfruit PossomTrot averrhoa carambola starfruit sdlg of Kari bouea macrophylla maprang/gandaria Kai butia capitata pindo palm jelly palm carica papaya papaya seedling carica papaya papaya seedling casimiroa edulis white sapote Redland casimiroa edulis white sapote Sue Belle casimiroa edulis white sapote Younghan's gold cereus peruvianus Pitaya Puerto Rican cereus peruvianus Pitaya ? chrysophylium cainito starapple color? citrus aurantium orange BLOOD citrus aurantium orange BLOOD citrus aurantium orange Florida Navel citrus aurantium orange Florida Navel citrus aurantium orange Red Navel citrus grandis pummelo hirado buntan citrus grandis pummelo chinese white citrus limon lemon Meyers citrus paradisi grapefruit Marsh Pink citrus paradisi grapefruit Rita's Pink citrus reticulata Satsuma Mandarin Owari Owari c. reticulata x paradisi tangelo x mandar. Page c. reticulata x paradisi tangelo Ugli c. reticulata x paradisi tangelo Ugli coffea arabica coffee seedling diospyros digyna black sapote grafted durio zibethinus durian seedling erybotria japonica loquat Bradenton erybotria japonica loquat Christmas diospyros digyna black sapote Joyner's everbear. eugenia braziliensis grumichama seedling eugenia braziliensis grumichama seedling eugemia cassioides monos plum seedling eugenia uniflora surinam cherry Zill Black euphoria longana longan Biew Kiew euphoria longana longan Kohala euphoria longana longan See Champoo euphoria longana longan E Daw euphoria longana longan Daigleman euphoria longana longan Tommy Wong euphoria longana longan rolling leaf euphoria longana longan seedling feijoa sellowiana feijoa or pineapple guava seedling guava Cooliidge ficus carica fig Celeste garcinia livingstonei Imbe seedling female garcinia mangostana mangosteen Grafted hylocereus ? Dragon Fruit Giant Vietnamese hylocereus ? Dragon Fruit Thai Red hylocereus guatamalensis Dragon Fruit American Beauty hylocereus polyrhizus Dragon Fruit Zamorano h. polyrhizus x undatus Dragon Fruit Delight h. polyrhizus x undatus Dragon Fruit Hailey's Comet h. polyrhizus x undatus Dragon Fruit Physical Graffiti hylocereus undatus Dragon Fruit Dark Star hylocereus undatus Dragon Fruit David Bowie hylocereus undatus Dragon Fruit Purple Haze litchi chinensis lychee Bengal litchi chinensis lychee Bosworth litchi chinensis lychee Bosworth 3 litchi chinensis lychee Bosworth 3 litchi chinensis lychee Brewster litchi chinensis lychee Brewster litchi chinensis lychee Emperor litchi chinensis lychee Emperor sdlg litchi chinensis lychee Farwell Farms litchi chinensis lychee Garnet litchi chinensis lychee Groff litchi chinensis lychee Hak Ip litchi chinensis lychee Hak Ip litchi chinensis lychee Hak Ip litchi chinensis lychee Kaimana litchi chinensis lychee Kaimana litchi chinensis lychee Kwai Mai Pink litchi chinensis lychee Kwai Mai Pink litchi chinensis lychee Kwai Mai Pink litchi chinensis lychee Large Early Red litchi chinensis lychee Mauritius litchi chinensis lychee Mauritius litchi chinensis lychee Ohia litchi chinensis lychee Ohia litchi chinensis lychee Red Ohia litchi chinensis lychee Peerless litchi chinensis lychee Pink Ohia litchi chinensis lychee Seymour litchi chinensis lychee Sweetheart litchi chinensis lychee Sweetheart macadamia integrifolia macadamia nut Dana White malus spiecies apple Fuji mammea americana mamey apple Kay Sweeny mangifera indica mango Angie mangifera indica mango AllampurBaneshanFairchild Gardens mangifera indica mango Alphonso mangifera indica mango Bailey's Marvel mangifera indica mango Beverly mangifera indica mango Bombay mangifera indica mango Brahm Kai Mea mangifera indica mango Brahm Kai Mea mangifera indica mango Carabao seedling mangifera indica mango Carabao seedling mangifera indica mango Carrie mangifera indica mango Carrie, seedling mangifera indica mango Chou Anon mangifera indica mango Coconut Cream mangifera indica mango Cogshall mango mangifera indica mango Cogshall mango mangifera indica mango Cushman mangifera indica mango Cushman mangifera indica mango Cushman mangifera indica mango Dian guaw mangifera indica mango Dot mangifera indica mango Dot mangifera indica mango Duncan mangifera indica mango East Indian mangifera indica mango Edward mangifera indica mango Edward mangifera indica mango Edward mangifera indica mango Edward mangifera indica mango Emerald mangifera indica mango Eweis mangifera indica mango Excalibur mangifera indica mango Extrema mangifera indica mango Fairchild mangifera indica mango Falang mangifera indica mango Florigon mangifera indica mango Gary mangifera indica mango Glenn mangifera indica mango Golden Lippens mangifera indica mango Graham mangifera indica mango Golden Nugget mangifera indica mango Haden mangifera indica mango Hatcher mangifera indica mango Ice cream mango mangifera indica mango Imam Pasand mangifera indica mango Irwin mandifera indica mango Ivory mangifera indica mango Jakarta mangifera indica mango Jean Ellen mangifera indica mango Jamaican Black mangifera indica mango Julie mangifera indica mango Kau Dwarf mangifera indica mango Keitt mangifera indica mango Kensington Pride mangifera indica mango Keow Savoy mangifera indica mango Kent mangifera indica mango Lancetilla mangifera indica mango Langra Benarsi mangifera indica mango Lemon Zest mangifera indica mango Madame Blanc mangifera indica mango Madame Francis mangifera indica mangi Malindi mangifera indica mango Mallika mangifera indica mango Mallika seedling mangifera indica mango Maha Chanook mangifera indica mango Maha Chanook mangifera indica mango Maha Chanook mangifera indica mango Maha chanook seedling (my seed) mangifera indica mango Maha chanook seedling (my seed) mangifera indica mango Maha chanook seedling (my seed) mangifera indica mango Martinez (Wolf) mangifera indica mango Martinez (Wolf) mangifera indica mango Mystery mangifera indica mango Nam Doc Mai mangifera indica mango Nam Doc Mai mangifera indica mango Nam Doc Mai See Tong..Bruce Livingston mangifera indica mango Neelum mangifera indica mango Nong Sang mangifera indica mango Okrong mangifera indica mango Okrong Pi Kun Tong Bruce Livingston mangifera indica mango Palmer mangifera indica mango Pettigrew mangifera indica mango Phillippine mangifera indica mango Pickering mangifera indica mango Pim Sen Mung mangifera indica mango Pim Sen Mung mangifera indica mango Piniero mangifera indica mango Po Pyo Kalay mangifera indica mango Rapoza mangifera indica mango Rataul mangifera indica mango Rhett Tong mangifera indica mango Rosigold mangifera indica mango San Felipe mangifera indica mango Sia Tong mangifera indica mango Springfels mangifera indica mango Southern Blush mangifera indica mango Spirit of 76 mangifera indica mango ST. Maui mangifera indica mango Tebow (ed x kent) mangifera indica mango Ta Rob Nok mangifera indica mango Tommy Atkins mangifera indica mango Tog Bi Con mangifera indica mango Tong Dam mangifera indica mango Thai Everbearing mangifera indica mango Thai Everbearing x Cushman (my seed) mangifera indica mango Valencia Pride mangifera indica mango Unknown seedling mangifera indica mango Vallanato mangifera indica mango Van Dyke mangifera indica mango Zill mangifera indica mango Zebda manilkara zapota sapodilla Alano manilkara zapota sapodilla Hasya manilkara zapota sapodilla Hasya manilkara zapota sapodilla Molix manilkara zapota sapodilla Oxcutzcab Melicoccus bijugatus mamoncillo PuertoRican melicoccus bijugatus mamoncillo PuertoRican monstera deliciosa monstera corm morus nigra mullberry Pakistani musa hybrids banana apple musa hybrids banana Goldfinger musa hybrids banana Brazilian musa hybrids banana ice cream musa hybrids banana Jamaican Red myciaria glomerata yellow jaboticaba seedling myrciaria cauliflora jaboticaba seedling myrciaria cauliflora jaboticaba seedling myrciaria cauliflora jaboticaba seedling myristica fragrans nutmeg seedling pachira aquatica malibar chestnut seedling passiflora quadrangularis granadilla cutting persea americana avocado Brogdan persea americana avocado Choquette persea americana avocado Doni persea americana avocado Miguel persea americana avocado Oasis persea americana avocado October persea americana avocado Russell persea americana avocado Pollack persea americana avocado sdlg flood resist. phoenix dactylifera date seedling phoenix dactylifera date seedling pouteria caimito abiu seedling pouteria caimito abiu seedling pouteria campechiana canistel Bruce pouteria Ross Sapote pouteria sapota mamey sapote Magana pouteria viridis green sapote grafted pyrus communis pear Hood pyrus communis pear Hood rheedia aristata same seedling rubus hybrid blackberry arapaho selinicereus megalanthus Dragon Fruit orange sk/pink fsh selinicereus megalanthus Dragon Fruit yellow selinicereus megalanthus Dragon Fruit yellow spondias dulcis ambarella seedling spondias dulcis dwarf ambarella seedling synsepalum dulcificum miracle fruit seedling syzygium javanica wax jambu Kun Klao syzygium javanica wax jambu Pink syzygium malaccensis Malay Apple seedling Tamerindus indica Tamarind seedling Tamerindus indica Tamrind Sweet (not) theobroma cacao Cocoa/Chocolate Red theobroma cacao Cocoa/Chocolate Green theobroma cacao Cocoa/Chocolate Yellow theobroma cacao Cocoa/Chocolate unknown pink vitus hybrid grape Tari's Burgundy Bunch Tari, Naples FL zyzyphus mauritiana Indian jujubee rootstock-thorny zyzyphus mauritiana Indian jujubee large sweet Other than these, I am not growing too much. Harry