Hi Kaylah, thanks for the links. I went ahead and ordered from Hortico yesterday. It wasn't clear from their site whether the roses are grafted or on their own roots. Regardless, I was planning to do as you do and plant them a little deeper and let them develop their own roots. I am actually looking forward to some suckers, what better gifts to give to friends, right? :-) May I ask where you garden "on rocks"? Sounds like you are dealing with a challenging site. Here on the north side of Indianapolis our biggest challenges to growing roses are probably cold winters and rose midge. The rose midge is actually partially responsible for me searching out the once blooming old roses, since their blooming period will be over before that pest becomes active. That and off course the fragrance and charm and history of old roses. In any case, thanks again for providing me with the links to those two nurseries, I'm afraid I will need to carve out some more space for future purchases...

I think perhaps my closeup photos exaggerated the moss aspect. I looked up Common Moss on HMF, and the photos there looked much mossier. Also, the growth habit and hardiness didn't match. But thanks for the thought!

Over my years and years of growing roses I've concluded that some roses just like a particular spot/climate while others do not. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to it. I have The Fairy growing up to 8 feet tall in full blazing sun and crappy soil, while Love sits in enviably rich loom and less harsh sun and it hasn't grown a bit in 20 years. New Dawn, William Baffin, & Tess of the D'Urbervilles are monsters, but Zephrin Drouhin just pokes along, Paradise, and Kiss Me take off each spring like wildfire, but they're half dead by fall. I've given up trying. My advice to you would be to take those little baby Paul Ricaults and plant them randomly around your yard - stick one under a porch, one in the middle, one by the house, one surrounded by other plants... maybe you'll get lucky!

Thanks, countrygirl. We've had tons of rain here lately, so that's good news. Thanks, also, ffff. The link you provided doesn't work; it took me to the proper webpage, but didn't offer an image. I was able to find R. centifolia 'Andrewsii' on that site, though. Yes, it does look like that, except it's a very deep pink.