The following was stated: "Opinions differ on whether it is OK to keep a rose known to be virused. Most rose people think it is OK." H.Kuska comment. Michaelg gives the above information without knowing which virus and which virility strain your plant has. Plants have an immune system against common viruses. At least some of the viruses that attack roses have a temperature dependent immune system. At higher temperature the immune system is relatively effective in controlling those infections. Since you are in zone 5, I would expect that experiences of southern rose growers (which appear to be the "most rose growers" that Michaelg is referring to) would not be applicable. There also is a northern rose grower here who inherited virused roses from parents. These are doing fine - but there are different strengths of virility even within a single type of virus and different roses have different strengths of immune systems, so that does not tell you how many roses the parents lost to viruses before the present plants were left. I suggest that you check with the older rose growers in your local rose society for their long term experience. If you are interested in what appears in the most recent reviewed scientific publication on the possibility of spread of two of the more common rose viruses, PNRSV and ApMV, this is a quote: "PNRSV is known to be transmitted mechanically, by root grafting and by seed (Abdel-Salam et al. 2008; Golino et al. 2011). The virus may be transmitted by pollen in rose although this hasn’t been fully ascertained (Kuska 2003). The high incidence of PNRSV in New Zealand is unsurprising as it is also vectored by the Western flower thrip (Frankliniella occidentalis) which is reportedly spread throughout New Zealand (Greber and Teakle 1992; Teulon and Nielsen 2005) and is known to infest many glasshouse crops (E. Milleza, unpublished data). " AND "Reports of pollen transmission of ApMV in rose are inconclusive (Kuska 2003), but in view of the characteristics of other ilarviruses, it is possible that ApMV could be dispersed by pollen." ------------------------------------------------------ The reference that they cite is: "Kuska H (2003) Can North American rose hybridizers use pollen from virus infected roses? Rose Hybridizers Assoc Newsl 34:7-10" Please note that for a statement to appear in a reviewed scientific publication, it has to be the thinking of the authors, plus it has to be approved by normally at least 3 of their scientific peers (the reviewers) and by the editor of the journal. ------------------------------------------------- http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13313-012-0191-x#page-1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rose Spring Dwarf Virus (RSDaV) http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/rose_spring_dwarf_virus.htm High Temperature Effect on PNRSV http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/high_temperature_effect_on_pnrsv.htm Can North American rose hybridizers safely use pollen from PNRSV infected roses? http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/rose%20virus%20and%20pollen.htm Should northern rose growers be concerned about possible above ground spread of PNRSV? http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/info_about_virus.htm Blackberry chlorotic ringspot virus (BCRV) http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/Blackberry%20chlorotic%20ringspot%20virus%20(BCRV).htm Information about Rose Rosette Disease http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/rose_rosette_disease_virus.htm Here is a link that might be useful: link to 2013 rose virus scientific paper

The genus and species of what I referred to was in the middle of the text so you had to copy and paste it to read it. And it does come in all colors and shapes as the Google IMAGES links shows and as others have also indicated with pictures at other sites where I read and sometimes post. Never heard it called stinkhorn before, though, and I thought Lois said it was slimy inside. Mutatis caninis? That's not the genus and species that was reffered to in that article. Ah well, more to lean I guess. but I'll check out your stinkhorn when the Irene passes over if I still have power. Carolyn, retired Microbiologist who used to talk about the slime "molds", just a general term that covers a lot and yes, I know they aren't fungi perfecta or imperfecta and the word "mold" is really just a general term that most folks can ID with. ( smile)

You won't need starter when you overseed, and the new grass won't need a thing for at least 30 days after sprout (seed contains the first month of every required resource). At the 1 month point, feed gently with a nitrogen-bearing fertilizer, or feed with an organic grain-based fertilizer when you plant (it'll become available at week 3 to 4). Watering...I'd play it by ear, but given your sodium levels, I'd still go with the full inch until those go down. We really don't want to make that any worse, which shallow irrigation will do.

Lol...I KNEW who you were talking about as soon as I read the title... Bella rosa, my GG came from ARE last year, and if I recall correctly it was the least robust of the eight roses in the shipment. I had my doubts, too. But I think it simply isn't a very vigorous rose. It's technically a hybrid perpetual, but it showed up in the 50's and no one knows anything about its ancestry. Still, mine grew well last year, if not spectacularly, and I got my first bloom this week. Trussssst me, it was worth the wait! Gorgeous, deep, dark, velvety red, going purple and finished almost as blue, if much darker, as my Blue For You. I can't wait for more so I can see all the colors at once. John