The interesting thing about this particular spot is that it is a highly touted spot for the tourist trade type of wedding. (these were local people, why pick this one???) You could see the empty flower beds all over the place. I can imagine what it would look like had it been spring or summer. Beautiful!! As it was, nothing, surrounded by a lot of bare dirt. Was it the girl or her mother? We'll never know. But I have a feeling, judging by the look on her father's face, that he told his second wife, "now, you know why I divorced her." Yeah, I'm being catty...

Buyorsell - The shelf is just attached to the two vertical beams. Actually, being a leftover from an actual closet project (imagine that!) it's just a tad shorter than 6', so wouldn't reach the corners anyway. I'm not sure if we're referring to the same photo, but I did see one of an overhead wire shelf quite well-loaded. The secret is that the shelf is actually resting on two heavy metal pipes that run the full length of the shelf, front and back. So it's the pipes, and the rafters they're attached to, that are providing the strength. Funnylady - That's quite a project to tackle alone; more power to you! And best wishes, too, to you and your husband through this ordeal. My husband has just finished his cancer treatment (well, most of it ... he's still on certain meds and supplements and the very important and often-overlooked dietary changes; no chemo or surgery, though, just hormonal and radiation therapies). I think it's great that you have the gardening hobby ... can't think of a better therapy!

I guess I'm getting my terminology mixed up, I thought seed starter mix was the same as soil-less mix. The latter is what I intend to use. There are soil-less seed starting mixes and soil-less growing mixes. The seed starting mixes are normally a much finer texture, mostly just peat and vermiculite to retain water, and have no or very few added nutrients since the young seedlings don't need or tolerate them well sometimes. They are used in very small amounts just for germination and nothing else. Soil-less growing/potting mixes have a more coarse texture for better drainage, include pine bark, perlite, lime, and added nutrients along with the peat. Many use them for both seed starting and for growing on as well as for container gardening. I didn't think of that. I did buy transplants last year so I was thinking I would save money there this year You can save money buy growing your own - after the initial outlay for decent equipment - lights and a heating pad. But the primary reason for growing your own is different variety access and the fun, not saving money. For example (over-simplified but I think you'll get the idea) since I was price shopping today - would you spend more than $11 on transplants? Since you already have your seeds, 1 2 cf bag of MG Potting Mix - enough to grow 150 transplants easily for the garden costs $11. Would you spend more than $21? The bag of MG and 1 shop light at Walmart plus 2 fluor. bulbs for it costs $21.50 and you'd have the light to use next year. Got any plastic butter tubs, yogurt cups, old containers, a bag of plastic drink cups from the Dollar Store you can make holes in the bottom of? Then you are set except for your hardening off issues. That has to be done right or it all goes down the tubes in just a few hours. Dave PS: edited to add I am not advocating Walmart or MG or any other product, just using it at an example since I happened to note the prices today. This post was edited by digdirt on Fri, Mar 21, 14 at 15:38

Time to revive this exercise thread. Sorry, due to a glitch I couldn't do a new post. ............................................................ I have had a bad month and a half. As I have mentioned before I work around a few issues so I'm always playing catch-up. No matter...I will not give up. It's ok that I will never be in the advanced catagory. It's ok that I have to make several modificationS. My new dog added to the usual with throwing my back every which way possible while leash training. I was sitting in misery stuffing my face. Things are better now. Anyway, thought I would share some of my favorite "new" workout dvd's. I like these because they are more intermediate but can be modified to more beginner for my bad days or harder for rare good days. Two are short with one only twenty minutes (the 20 min. DVD kicks my butt). One is longer but it goes by fast. I just need light/med hand weights and a mat. There is a suggestion of a small ball for abb work but I modify. Share your workouts , obstacles and DVD recommendations (if you have any) and why you like them. My new to me fav's! 20 minute https://www.amazon.com/Jillian-Michaels-30-Day-Shred/dp/B00127RAJY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1539109104&sr=8-2&keywords=Jillian+30+day+shred 30 minute & you can use a chair or furniture instead of a bar. Great for legs!!!! https://www.amazon.com/Physique-Cardio-Blast-Minute-Workout/dp/B00OP4QU92/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539109264&sr=8-1&keywords=physique+cardio+blast+30+minute+workout This last one I like a lot. It's very doable. Longer but the time seems short. https://www.amazon.com/BarreAmped-Bootcamp-Suzanne-Bowen/dp/B00GVHA04C