e4849. The fancieee cooktop was made my Caldera Corp out of Vermont. It was not induction but radiant, and everything stuck to the cooktop. The company went "Belly Up" a year ago--Alto I believe somebody took over the Gas cooktop part of the business. It was their intent to market a gas cooktop with touch controls, but I don't think that one was ever released. Ya know it's kinda funny, We "Specifically" bought the Icon Induction cooktop because the controls were (well we thought anyway) Isolated from the rest of the cooktop, and hence would receive no spills or other contamination---like what totalled the Caldera. Course after seeing no compalints with any touch controls on any of the induction units, cept the one posted about the Icon---kinda makes ya wonder. Not sure how many they sold (Icon Inductions) so cept for the post on GW haven't seen any other problems. Still Strange, their new (Electrolux) induction cooktop no longer has the stainless---yet I guess their new Drop ins, Ranges etc will have----Go figger? Gary

Now that I've opened the control panel and properly connected the control cable for the oven, it works much better. The only continuing downside that I haven't fixed is the buzzing / rattle from the rear panel when the oven warms while the convection fan is on. I still despise the stupid blue clock. I wish the clock itself could just be turned off. My cats like it, oddly enough. I can tell because there are always cat prints on the surface. One day they'll learn. You betcha. The bottle of surface cleaner that comes with the stove is hard to remove. I've read somewhere here that there's a different product available that's much easier to work with. I can't remember which thread it was in or the name of the product, though. I've accrued one scratch on the cooktop surface. I noticed that the surface cleaner helps to keep the surface slick. The surface is always slick enough that I have to hold my pots and pans in place while stirring. Either it wasn't slick enough to avoid the scratch or I wasn't holding the cookware still enough. I guess it was bound to happen, though. Overall I still love it. So much easier to keep clean. The speed that it generates heat is great. I kind of like the buzzing sound it makes because I can just hear how high the power level is set without looking. (It's rather odd that the power levels go in weird numerical steps.) If you can get it on sale, go for it. It's definitely made by Electrolux, keeping the Kenmore tradition alive. (The tradition being that Kenmore isn't really a brand so much as a generic reseller.) I'm curious to see how it holds up over the years.

Yeah, run some external fans. Be sure to notice, first, how the air moves when the range is cooling itself in normal use. You want to augment that air movement, not fight it, so you are moving more air more quickly. Avidchef, you are very brave. Some of us are sitting around with dirty ovens because we are still afraid to clean them. It is wise to run the self-cleaning routine a few times before the warranty runs out.

Hi All , The GREEN harness. I have been slow and methodical in the diagnosis of this problem. Usually once a design is in production, the testing has been done and the design and device are solid and ready for the wild.....they fail due to a bad part or connection. My brother inlaw for years fixed TVs. He said use your five senses first. He would pop the back off and with a mirror on the wall. He would smell , look , listen and then start banging around the innards with the plastic handle while watching the mirror.....bang bang wait picture for a second....turn driver around push gently on circuit board...oh there picture. Look crap solder joint...fixed. I took out the controller pcb...under a microscope inspected all soldering. Nothing looked bad....resoldered anyways....and NOPE still E15 ...grrrr. I then carefully unplugged and cleaned each harness attached to the pcb. So removed washed in 99% Isopropyl...replaced and waited. This took about 2 weeks to clean replace and wait to see if fault returned. I did this because in my rat brain I thought the flaw in the design is these PCBs and all the crap interconnected, live just outside the oven door. We have all seen the alien snot that builds up on the kitchen fan...even the one way up on that high spot. I could feel same snot although lighter all over the assemblies under the touch pad. I guess the engineers thought the fan pushing air out to cool the coils would stop this and it sort of does .Open the door during a roast with water in the pan to keep smoke down and that huge blinding waft of steam ,smoke is more than the fan can keep at bay. (ANSWER HERE) The E15 fault kept returning ...until the weird GREEN cloth insulated harness was cleaned and replaced. I have not seen the fault since. This harness connects to the green connector then heads over to the left and connects to what looks like a power supply or power conditioning board...it has a couple big transformers on it. Is this the ANSWER we have been seeking ...Clean and reinstall green colored harness ? I build design and electronics for a living. 99% of the time something stops working it is bad solder joint or some other weak connection. The cable harnesses all could be prone to getting contaminated at the tiny little spot where the contact touches the pin. With steamy smokey goodness spewing out from the oven . Just as we open the door the gap between the door seal and oven face is literally directing all the vapors and smoke into the cavity the electronics live. The fan in the oven in convection mode adds to the pressure coming from the gap....and does not stop pushing until the door is open far enough to activate the door/light switch. My guess is during design test and dev phase all the white coats kept the oven very clean. They needed to have few real world oily spills and other mishaps build up and maybe they would have caught this flaw. I think the goo build up is why the fault is so random. The other really stupid design flaw is how a stove spill can get into the backside on the oven door glass. What a pain to clean. Oh and the macros for common heat up cook rest....they don't even save to memory. This appliance is great if the goo build up issue was solved...the oven door mess issue could just be troughed over so it NEVER hits the glass and the macros could be saved to eeprom so even a power outage does not erase them. Firmware updates would be nice too....if there was a USB port...there is not. I will close now my episode of war and peace of crap .I would like to thank Electrolux for completely not giving a crap about selling this at a premium and ignoring all of us out here.