OT re: gadgets..good thermometer for yogurt-making?
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Home made yogurt, culture source and taste?
Comments (20)Hi all! Although I am new to this forum, I see an awful lot of references to boiling milk when making yogurt and I just want to comment. I live on a farm and am fortunate enough to have access to raw milk. I will never drink pasteurized milk. For those of you who have been brainwashed since birth as I was before my farming venture, you may think this is crazy. But Raw Milk is the good stuff. Pasteurized is the bad stuff. Raw milk goes sour and sour milk is great in cooking and baking. Pasteurized milk goes BAD. Pasteurization comes from boiling the milk, or at least heating it above 150 degrees. This kills bacteria in the milk. ALL of it. Including the good bacteria. That's why pasteurized milk goes BAD instead of sour. All the good bacteria that eats the bad bacteria has been killed off! I don't heat my raw milk before adding the culture. Like someone in the forum said somewhere, just add the culture and set it in a warm place overnight. If I had to used pasteurised milk, then I would say you would have to boil it first. Pasteurized milk breeds a ton of nasty bacteria when warm. So boiliing it first to kill that off and then culturing with store bought yogurt and keeping it refrigerated makes more sense to me. Not that I would ever want to do it that way....See MoreDigital thermometer reommendation please
Comments (20)Thermapen is not the right piece of gear if you want to check an oven temp. It is designed to be inserted into food. I have one, but have only had it since late last year so no comment on durability yet, though it seems well built. It is VERY accurate, 207.5F for boil, which is what it ought to be at my altitude and I get a solid reading out of it within a couple seconds. So, so far I am happy with it. Yet I still miss my old Polder, a two piece affair with a probe designed to be left in the food while cooking and a remote display and alarm that you could set to go off when the food had reached the proper temp. It was a degree or so off, but no big deal, and it was convenient to shove it in the bird and walk away, knowing the alarm would go off when it was time to pull dinner out of the oven. I melted the probe lead using it in my BBQ and haven't replaced it, but I probably will. Some cooking chores are better accomplished with the Polder Alarm setup than having to use a one-shot, hand-held, device like the Thermapen....See MoreDo you make your own YOGURT?
Comments (13)Linda (doucanoe) - check out the link below for more information. It's easiest done with a yogurt maker, which keeps yogurt fermenting at a constant temperature, for more consistant results. There are other methods you can use. There are lots of little tips and tricks to making yogurt. -Don't jiggle the yogurt once it's fermenting (usually happens with someone moves the batch). It destroys the curd and you can end up with yogurt "soup". -You can use a wide variety of dairy products - from non-fat dried milk powder to cream - and combinations. I used to make a lot of goat yogurt when I could get fresh goat milk. - You can make different types and consistancies by additions like unflavored gelatin or cornstarch. -I'd suggest using Stonyfield Farm Yogurt as your starter to innoculate your yogurt. It has more strains of good bacteria in it than other brands. -You can save yogurt from one batch to innoculate your next batch, but eventually it will become weak and you will need a new starter. If you notice your yogurt is not setting up as well as it did in previous batches, you probably need to get some commercial yogurt to use as a new starter. There are powdered starters available from Yogourmet (check your health food store). - There is a temperature window for adding the starter to the cooled pasteurized milk. Within that window of temperatures, adding the starter when the temperature is at the warmest end of the temp. window will render a tart yogurt. Adding the starter at the cooler side of the temp. window will render a smoother, less tart yogurt. - You'll need a good instant read thermometer because yogurt is VERY temperature-sensitive for making it. If it doesn't thicken, the milk may have been too hot or too cool when the starter was added. Not enough starter may also cause a failed batch. The incubating temperature needs to be just right or the batch can fail. If it's incubated too long, it can get really tart. If there's a lot of whey separating from the curd, it's because it was either bumped or moved during incubation or was incubated too long. I've switched to making kefir (which is similar to yogurt) after making yogurt for about 30 years +, because all you need is milk and kefir grains. No messing with pasteurizing milk, concerns with temperatures, and kefir is much better for you than yogurt. I use kefir anywhere I need plain yogurt, buttermilk, sourcream, and even cream cheese. -Grainlady Here is a link that might be useful: How to Make Yogurt...See MoreStrange thing about making yogurt
Comments (5)Thanks Grainlady! Everything you mentioned is true. I really appreciate your explanation. I too use kefir grains to make milk kefir. Little man and I love kefir but my husband won't touch it. That's why I still make the regular yogurt. I do pay a lot of attention to temperatures when making yogurt at home. Use a thermometer in the milk while heating and cooling. I always let it cool to 118F, remove from heat before getting the yogurt cultures ready. I usually use 2 - 4 tablespoons of room temperature yogurt from the last batch. You're right, as time goes on the cultures tend to become weaker so I do use fresh cultures (judged by the flavor of the last batch) from time to time. By the time I add a couple of ladles of warm milk into the cultures, the temperature will be between 110 and 115F. I always clean and warm the jars and keep them warm in the incubator that I built until the milk is ready. Once the jars are filled, they go into the incubator immediately. Once again, I keep another thermometer in the incubator to ensure proper temperatures. If the temperature seems not high enough, I throw a large towel over the box. When the thermometer indicates too warm I take off the towel. If everything goes well, the yogurt will set in a bit over 4 hours. If not, I let it sit up to 8 hours before calling it quit. Since the jars are in an incubator that locates in the corner of the kitchen, nobody ever bumped into it. No animals at home so it's a very safe place for making yogurt. I use only milk (sometimes add 1/4 C of powdered milk if 2% or less fat milk is used) and cultures in my yogurt. A year ago when I was the yogurt diva with yogurt turned out like the Old Faithful, I used a can of coconut milk in with 5 cups of cows milk. These days, I am happy as long as I get yogurt instead of milk. I will play with flavors again once I get the consistency back under control. I have a feeling that it's the heating pad that I use in the incubator. It's pretty old. Only the low heat setting works; both med and high are toasted. I have been using the low setting for a couple of years and didn't have problems until last year. I guess I need a new heating pad! LOL Once again, thank you for your advice. Your expertise is definitely a gem to the forum. Al...See Moretheresse
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