OT re: gadgets..good thermometer for yogurt-making?
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Do you make your own YOGURT?
Comments (13)Linda (doucanoe) - check out the link below for more information. It's easiest done with a yogurt maker, which keeps yogurt fermenting at a constant temperature, for more consistant results. There are other methods you can use. There are lots of little tips and tricks to making yogurt. -Don't jiggle the yogurt once it's fermenting (usually happens with someone moves the batch). It destroys the curd and you can end up with yogurt "soup". -You can use a wide variety of dairy products - from non-fat dried milk powder to cream - and combinations. I used to make a lot of goat yogurt when I could get fresh goat milk. - You can make different types and consistancies by additions like unflavored gelatin or cornstarch. -I'd suggest using Stonyfield Farm Yogurt as your starter to innoculate your yogurt. It has more strains of good bacteria in it than other brands. -You can save yogurt from one batch to innoculate your next batch, but eventually it will become weak and you will need a new starter. If you notice your yogurt is not setting up as well as it did in previous batches, you probably need to get some commercial yogurt to use as a new starter. There are powdered starters available from Yogourmet (check your health food store). - There is a temperature window for adding the starter to the cooled pasteurized milk. Within that window of temperatures, adding the starter when the temperature is at the warmest end of the temp. window will render a tart yogurt. Adding the starter at the cooler side of the temp. window will render a smoother, less tart yogurt. - You'll need a good instant read thermometer because yogurt is VERY temperature-sensitive for making it. If it doesn't thicken, the milk may have been too hot or too cool when the starter was added. Not enough starter may also cause a failed batch. The incubating temperature needs to be just right or the batch can fail. If it's incubated too long, it can get really tart. If there's a lot of whey separating from the curd, it's because it was either bumped or moved during incubation or was incubated too long. I've switched to making kefir (which is similar to yogurt) after making yogurt for about 30 years +, because all you need is milk and kefir grains. No messing with pasteurizing milk, concerns with temperatures, and kefir is much better for you than yogurt. I use kefir anywhere I need plain yogurt, buttermilk, sourcream, and even cream cheese. -Grainlady Here is a link that might be useful: How to Make Yogurt...See MoreStrange thing about making yogurt
Comments (5)Thanks Grainlady! Everything you mentioned is true. I really appreciate your explanation. I too use kefir grains to make milk kefir. Little man and I love kefir but my husband won't touch it. That's why I still make the regular yogurt. I do pay a lot of attention to temperatures when making yogurt at home. Use a thermometer in the milk while heating and cooling. I always let it cool to 118F, remove from heat before getting the yogurt cultures ready. I usually use 2 - 4 tablespoons of room temperature yogurt from the last batch. You're right, as time goes on the cultures tend to become weaker so I do use fresh cultures (judged by the flavor of the last batch) from time to time. By the time I add a couple of ladles of warm milk into the cultures, the temperature will be between 110 and 115F. I always clean and warm the jars and keep them warm in the incubator that I built until the milk is ready. Once the jars are filled, they go into the incubator immediately. Once again, I keep another thermometer in the incubator to ensure proper temperatures. If the temperature seems not high enough, I throw a large towel over the box. When the thermometer indicates too warm I take off the towel. If everything goes well, the yogurt will set in a bit over 4 hours. If not, I let it sit up to 8 hours before calling it quit. Since the jars are in an incubator that locates in the corner of the kitchen, nobody ever bumped into it. No animals at home so it's a very safe place for making yogurt. I use only milk (sometimes add 1/4 C of powdered milk if 2% or less fat milk is used) and cultures in my yogurt. A year ago when I was the yogurt diva with yogurt turned out like the Old Faithful, I used a can of coconut milk in with 5 cups of cows milk. These days, I am happy as long as I get yogurt instead of milk. I will play with flavors again once I get the consistency back under control. I have a feeling that it's the heating pad that I use in the incubator. It's pretty old. Only the low heat setting works; both med and high are toasted. I have been using the low setting for a couple of years and didn't have problems until last year. I guess I need a new heating pad! LOL Once again, thank you for your advice. Your expertise is definitely a gem to the forum. Al...See MoreHomemade yogurt questions
Comments (9)It sounds like your venture worked well. You may want to try this.... Check your yogurt after 3 hours, gently giggle the mixture to see if it is firm. If not firm, let stand one more hour and check it again, then every half-hour after that. Refrigerate it as soon as it is done and don't use it for at least 6-hours. It will continue to thicken as it chills. Once you have a strong starter and a good source of milk, the length of time it takes to ferment depends on the three T's. - Temperature you heated the milk to (between 190-210-degrees F.). - Temperature for adding the starter - 105-120-degrees F. When you add the starter on the cooler side of the temperature window, the yogurt will be more mild than if you add it towards the warmer side of the temperature window. -Temperature for incubating - This temperature can range from 105-120-degrees F. Temperatures over 120-degrees F will destroy the bacteria. You can take the remaining Greek Yogurt and freeze it in portions for future yogurt sessions. Thaw it in the refrigerator before using for making another batch. You can also save a portion of your new batch to use as a starter, but it will eventually get weaker with subsequent batches until you will need a new starter. Whey is a very healthy part of yogurt, and you can expect it to separate from the curd during a long fermentation session, or if you stir or disturb the curd by cutting into it with a spoon and then letting it sit again. I love the whey from kefir and use it to make lemonade. It's a great thirst quencher during these horribly hot days. I use whey for lacto-fermentation of grains. You'll find more information about the whey in the link below. After decades of making yogurt, I moved on to the much simpler and better for you kefir. I drain the curd from kefir and use it as a substitute for cream cheese (as well as sour cream, plain yogurt, and in the liquid form as a substitute for buttermilk), and you can do the same thing with yogurt. The greatest portion of the whey drains off the yogurt the first hour. If you let yogurt drain for only 5-10 minutes, a cup of yogurt gives up 25% of it's volume in 5-minutes; a pint gives up 18% and a quart only 12%. -Drained Yogurt: Drained about 10-minutes. -Thick Yogurt: Drained at least 30-minutes. It will thicken, but still be soft - but won't retain its shape on a flat surface or the mark of a finger indentation. One hour is ideal for draining. -Yogurt Cheese: Yogurt that has drained for 8-hours or longer. It is the consistency of cream cheese, will hold its shape and retain the mark of a finger indentation. -One quart of yogurt will yield approximately 1-1/3 c. of yogurt cheese (about 2 c. of whey is drained off.) One quart of yogurt will yield about 2-1/2 c. of thick yogurt (about 1-1/4 c. of whey is drained off). Adding non-fat dry milk along with your milk will increase the protein and calcium and also results in a thicker yogurt. There are recipes where you can also add gelatin to help make a firm curd. The gelatin also adds protein. If you use reconstituted powdered milk as your only milk source, you can skip the step where you heat the milk. Just add warm water to the powdered milk to the temperature you need for adding the starter. By altering the ingredients - milk only, OR milk + powdered milk, OR milk + powdered milk and gelatin, it will determine whether your yogurt is soft, firm, or very firm. Make yogurt with half and half or cream and you have a lovely, rich, yogurt to use for desserts with fruit, or make into ice cream. You can also make yogurt with evaporated milk or add sweetened condensed milk for making sweetened yogurt. Another "secret" ingredient in yogurt making is to add cornstarch for a smoother and creamier finished product. -Grainlady Here is a link that might be useful: Benefits of Yogurt Whey...See MoreOT: Share winter recipes to make during the holiday break
Comments (32)Here's our friend Maria's everyday chicken mole or, as she explained to me long ago, amused by the new culinary fuss over "moles," chicken in gravy. Maria was the oldest of 10 and spent her childhood here in the U.S. babysitting and on a stool preparing meals while the adults were out in the fields. She's a fantastic cook, but this is simple home cooking, no chocolate, no "special" ingredients. I'm offering it because I never see it on recipe forums and it is delicious, definitely winter comfort food. Amounts are approximate, of course, and can be massaged as desired. Chicken broth Water and 2-3 pounds chicken parts, chicken, plus whatever you usually add, such as: 1/2 onion 2 cloves garlic 1 leafy stalk celery. 1 bay leaf 2 teaspoons thyme Salt and pepper to taste Gravy 3 tablespoons chicken fat (skimmed from chicken broth) 1/2 onion, chopped 2 cloves garlic 3 tablespoons flour Cumin seed, broken up, to taste, about 1 tablespoon or more Good quality chili powder to taste, start with a tablespoon if unsure 3 cups chicken broth Simmer first group of ingredients about 20 minutes, skimming foam as they approach a low boil, then turning heat down to simmer about 20 minutes for the typical supermarket chicken. Remove and cool chicken enough to pull apart into bite-size pieces. For gravy, lightly saute onion, garlic and spices in chicken fat skimmed from the broth. Sift flour into the pan, whisking quickly, and stir over low-medium heat until flour is cooked; will be bubbly but not browned. Then stir in defatted chicken broth and simmer until thickened. Salt as desired. At this point you can add more chili powder to taste if needed and simmer a bit more. We like it a nice medium chile-red, not pale and not dark. Then add the chicken and serve over whatever you like....See Moretheresse
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