Brands that do both inset and frameless

13 years ago

Can you suggest brands that can do both inset and frameless in a quartersawn oak shaker style? I really would like to do my island in frameless to maximize space plus the working side of the island will not show very much. The stove and sink wall will be highly visible so I would like to have them inset or if that's not in the budget then I would want partial overlay so that they can maintain the "old-fashioned" look I want for my bungalow. I think the frameless and full overlay just look too modern for my vision. If it's not possible to find a company that will make both styles, then has anyone ever mixed cabinet companies? I really don't want to do painted since none of the woodwork in the house will be painted. I am afraid that if I introduce a painted piece, it would look out of place...unless you can convince me otherwise with pictures!!! Thank you.

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rollie
13 years ago
Dakota Kitchen and Bath does both frameless and inset cabinets. They also do quartersawn red or white oak.

Their mission style doors are the 109 and 116

Here is a link that might be useful: Dakota Kitchen and Bath
katmatt
13 years ago
Check out Plain & Fancy Cabinetry. They are out of Pennsylvania and are well known for their inset doorstyles. Their frameless line is known as Medley. And, they are one of the last companies still offering a lipped door.
What state are you in? I think they only operate east of the Mississippi.

Good luck.
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archnista
13 years ago
Omega Cabinetry does both inset and frameless cabinets, I believe...

Also check out Bentwood (although really expensive) and Quakermaid...Im sure they both do inset and frameless. They are rather expensive, but I dont know what your budget is...

Also check out Bertch, Im not exactly sure about this one, but I think they maybe worth looking into
lascatx
13 years ago
I believe Brookhaven and Woodmode do both also. When I got mine, the inset was in Woodmode only. You could mix the lines but they cost more. Brookhaven was in the process of adding them as we progressed and I wanted the frameless more so I don't know much more than they were being added.
ncamy
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13 years ago
Thank you all for the suggested brands. I will look into them. I am in NC and have a modest(?)budget. I would like to do 25 linear feet of cabinetry plus a 7 foot island for under $25,000. The inset part might just be a dream with my budget. I'm pretty set on Quartersawn Oak, though.
artemis78
13 years ago
This won't help you any since it's on the other coast, but just in case anyone stumbles on this thread in the future---Huggy Bear Cupboards in Portland, OR is a good option for this too. They distribute from the Pacific to the Rockies plus Alaska, Hawai'i, and the western half of Canada.
robinson622
13 years ago
Have you looked into custom cabinets, or are these brands considered custom? I'm having almost the exact same layout as you. Well my kitchen is L-shaped approx. 15x14 with a 7 ft. island. They are all maple inset cabinets with bead, dovetail drawers, full extension, soft close, furniture hood, 10 lite cabinet/hutch, etc. With delivery and installation they are a little over $15,000. Sometimes going custom isn't what you think it will be.
kitellie49
13 years ago
Hi,

Omega does not offer a frameless line. Cabico does to inset and frameless, but I'm not sure about Quartersawn.

Good Luck!
cjc123
13 years ago
Cabico does both. I have beaded inset on my uppers and two hutches then have full overlay for the base cabinets and pantry. Pantry is right next to beaded inset. Love the look and space. 98% of people don't notice that the entire kitchen is not inset! I believe that is because the beaded inset is at eye level. My cabinets are dark cherry, but I almost got the quartersawn. good luck Cindy

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