Kitchen Tear Out - Did you do it yourself?
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Comments (12)I agree with Lavender--open it up. Anyone who buys the house will like the openness. I do not like open plans in large houses, they are not comfortable. You can always create "comfy" delineations of space when it's open.(LL's plans have a lot of these areas I noticed) I think of it this way, pubs when done correctly manage to create areas for conversation, areas for card games and drinking/eating. Yes I admit it pubs are my model for home design...I've been to the most basic old style pubs(original worn floors, original cabinets) that rival many houses I have seen for "warmth". If you leave the walls partially closed it's more trouble and expense for the next owner. I knocked out one tiny (TINY)coat closet in my kitchen entryway and I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE RUBBLE that poured down(from the space above). If you decide not to do a bar, can you somehow place comfortable chairs/small couch facing the kitchen(maybe w/ a sofa table behind the couch). I love the idea of having someone near or in the kitchen while I'm cooking. When we were working on the other rooms we kept moving the furniture around out of the way. Everyone loved to sit in the upholstered chair squished into the corner of the kitchen....See MoreWhy do they need to tear out the walls?
Comments (12)I got bids from 5 contractors, and had several others come around that I didn't get bids from. As I had no prior remodel experience at all, I told them that it didn't matter to me whether they removed the drywall or not -- whichever way would cost less. All except one said they would remove and replace the drywall. They said that the cost would be the same because it would take longer to do the electrical etc if the drywall wasn't removed. Also they said that if we wanted smooth walls (not textured like the existing walls), it would be necessary to replace the drywall. At least one of them said opening up the walls would also enable them to put blocking (I think that's the word?) in the walls to attach the cabinets to. One of them even said he needed to remove the drywall from both sides of a wall with a pass-through we were having enlarged. One of them (that I didn't get a bid from) also said he would cut a hole in the floor for easier access to the crawlspace. We ended up going with the contractor who wasn't going to replace the drywall. They cut and patched a small strip of drywall around the room to run wiring and plumbing. They cut and patched holes in the ceiling for wiring. They smoothed the existing walls. They hung the cabinets on the walls by attaching them where the studs were. The only place they removed the drywall was on the wall that needed reframing (and only on one side). He couldn't fathom why anyone would cut a hole in the floor. (They only accessed the crawlspace on one day). Basically it seemed to me that at least in my case, removing the drywall was not necessary and probably would just have been to make it easier for the contractors. This is just my experience. It may well be different in different situations -- I guess maybe also depending on how much electrical etc there is to do?...See MoreWhen do you tear out newly installed tile?
Comments (16)So sorry it's taken me so long to see your question (I blame it on my decision to start a PhD program while continuing to work full time AND building new kitchen cabinets - I'm a glutton for punishment!). DH swears that he verified the waterproofing after the tear-out. I do appreciate the questioning though, because if it weren't for the previous experience of DH and our previous contractors (who did our other baths and were fabulous), I wouldn't have a clue about the waterproofing specs. But there's more: I insisted on a second tear-out/re-do in another area. The tiler started the layout for the tile around the entry to the shower, on a vertical partial-wall, with full tiles at the bottom, and near the top it devolved into a series of diminishing tiles. I can't even fathom why. All the cut pieces were front and center, where they were most obvious. So at that point, I spent a Saturday measuring all the remaining areas and drew the proper layout in sketch-up. I gave it to DH and said he needed to insist on that layout and tell the tiler to ask before deviating more than 1/4" on any cuts. (He didn't deviate, and it turned out great.) Yesterday the tiler was here and DH was not. So instead of studying for my finals, I got to explain to the tiler why it was NOT ok to hide a large gap on the back toilet wall by building out the adjacent wall with a 1/4" skim coat. My head almost exploded when he suggested that... but instead I calmly explained that I would be doing all of the finish carpentry, and I considered it my job to hide such imperfections. I also calmly suggested that if he continues doing tile jobs, he should consider such issues during the layout phase. Lessons learned: Be careful who you hire and why you hire them. You're not doing a friend a favor, and definitely not saving money, by hiring somebody just because they need work and you think they'll do a decent job. This has been the most expensive and lowest-quality install we've ever had. Plus the guy only shows up for about 2 days every 2-3 weeks so it's taking For...Ev.....Er.... (fortunately this is the "extra" extra bathroom). Another lesson: "Green" remodeling uses high-quality materials AND high-quality installation. It turned my stomach to have good tile torn out, but it also turned my stomach to see lovely tile installed like an afterthought. Last lesson learned: While some spouses are very handy, they are not always good project managers, especially when working with difficult situations. But hopefully they're coachable. (At least we're still married and in love.) But of course you all knew these. So did I, but that didn't stop me from forgetting and relearning. I'll try to remember to post photos when finished. Thanks again for advice (and giving me space to vent!)....See Moredonka
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