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Painted my cabinets. What about the island?

14 years ago

Sike. ;) Hehee, I'm not that fast. Seriously though, I'm really thinking this is going to be my Spring project to paint my cabinets white but what to do with the island?

Originally I had the stool cushions made, painted the stool legs black & distressed/stained so they didn't blend with my island. My Dad redid the island for the 2nd time (long story) just "last year" with the beadboard paneling and corbels. Picked black base so it would tie in with the black toe kicks on the cabinets. I like how the island is a little different but I think if I paint everything else white, it could look like I forgot to paint it, iykwim.

I don't want to go there with stain on the island because the cabinet side is factory and other is beadboard paneling I stained to match. It would be a bear and I'm not convinced I have the patience.

I don't think painting it black is the way to go because in photoshops before it looked like a dark hole in the room. Plus, then the corbels will blend in and I'm not willing to get rid of them.

Painting it white could look like white overkill with the white cabinets maybe? (Appliances have to stay - 3 years old)

Leave the island as is and keep the toe kicks black on the cabinets?

Paint the island white too and leave the base black & toe kicks on the cabinets? - (I recently saw this done on a blog and it made the bottoms of the cabinets recede and she added white bun feet. I'd like to add feet to the cabinets but that could get costly.)

I don't know that I could handle a red island.

Thoughts?

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My reasoning:

It will add contrast to the counters and floor (browns) and will help blend my appliances.

If I'm going to go through with this, the next year (Spring/Summer) is when it needs to happen. We're finishing up working on our basement and half of the space is a gym that's currently empty, so I'd have a large work space, until the end of 2011 when we'll be ordering a ton of equipment. Plus, sooner or later we're going to have kids and then our time and priorities will shift. I hear how I'm not going to have time for such things during those early years. :)

I keep telling myself I like the cabinets but they're turning orange. They weren't orange when they were installed, dangit.

I'll need to pick a soft white without yellow because of my appliances. I have been reading up on painting kitchens and whites. Brought a fan deck home and BM Cloud White has potential. I wouldn't want to go anymore yellow (and that looks pretty neutral white by itself) than that. I personally think my appliances read cool against that color on the strip so we'll see.

Everything in the kitchen looks better IRL than it photographs.

**We won't be hiring out for the painting. It's not and won't be in the budget ever. Years from now, when we have a budget for a kitchen, I'll be doing a whole remodel.

Comments (31)

  • 14 years ago
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    I vote for satin black.

  • 14 years ago
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    If you are thinking about having kids I'd nix the painting of the cabinets and island and instead sand them down and reapply stain and sealer.
    Kids are REALLY hard on kitchen cabinets. EVERY finger print and ding with toys and shoes is going to show up on a white cabinet that has been painted. Save the paint for when they are older.

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  • 14 years ago
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    Start an inspiration folder and throw anything and everything you like in it. Eventually you will see a theme!

  • 14 years ago
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    I so agree with carol. And I like your cabs in the photo (I have oak also). If you say they look better IRL for the sake of your sanity I'd leave them. They also look better with white appliances than white cabs would, to me.

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    As far as having kids, I'm not really worried about that being too big of a factor.

    Kmcg - Hmm. So far my only theme is expensive.

  • 14 years ago
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    Okay, now this is just MY personal opinion and my likes/dislikes. I'm just throwing it out there. I think I've mentioned before I generally don't care for stark white cabinets. Are you planing on going white-white or a white base and either distressing/glazing or something along that line? I'm thinking, if you do a glaze, it would help with the dirt/fingerprint factor.

    I definitely wouldn't do the island to match the cabinets. I'd first paint the cabinets and see how you like the stained island with the painted cabinets. If you don't like that look, then I'd go for painting it in another color. I'm not sure black is the right choice, and you say you don't want red, what about some shade of green? Would that go with your fabrics?

    I would guess there is some finish (poly?) on the cabinets that is turning orange. We built our house 13 years ago and had custom oak cabinets built. However, we didn't do a poly or any type shellac and cabinets are still true to color. I believe the stain we used was minwax provencial.

    tina

  • 14 years ago
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    oh my, you actually got me there, shee; I was thinking, omg, she's on a rampage. Good one !!!!!!!

  • 14 years ago
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    I'd opt for a darker mahogany/cherry colored stain. It will be more cohesive with the rest of your house, yet stand alone in the kitchen plus be a better match with the floor and counters. Personally am not a fan of the black toe kicks. It draws the eye to something that really is not remarkable.

  • 14 years ago
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    We are just finishing an update to our kitchen. Painted, rather than replaced, the cabinets.

    After considering a different color, or different countertop for the island, we ended up resurfacing 3 sides of the island with bead board. It gives it a bit of distinction even though it has been painted the same white as the balance of the cabinets.

    Hopefully some photos by the end of the week.

  • 14 years ago
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    OMG I opened this thread so fast-and I was thinking- poor woman has lost her mind! The next post will be from her DH telling us that she has gone away for a long long rest!! LOL
    Until 2000, I still had some painted cabinetsibefore the kitchen was gutted. I had painted them with a roller using semi gloss latex paint- in 1988. They never ever chipped and were easy to wash.
    Who knew that rollers werent that great for painting cabinets? those were the days!

  • 14 years ago
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    Oh my word, shee, I was about to have to quit being your virtual friend, if you could get those cabs done that quickly ;-) I've mentioned this to someone else before, but I have aktillery's former kitchen (as she has since moved and redone another kitchen!) as one of my inspiration pics. She did stained lowers and painted uppers and tied it together beautifully. She also has the dining room side of her peninsula painted a warm red.

    Not sure if it would be an option for you, but keeping the lowers stained (but make them darker) might help for when you later have the patter of little feet running through your kitchen--and the prints of little grimy hands :-) Nothing wrong w/ either of those things--I love my kids at the age they are now, but I miss those baby/toddler/preschooler years, too

    Below are two pics from her album, and I've linked to her kitchen on the FKB:

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    Here is a link that might be useful: aktillery's kitchen in the FKB

  • 14 years ago
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    The island should be the same green the wall is.

  • 14 years ago
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    Ha, well I’m glad I got a few chuckles because I was thinking later last night how that was childish of me to put that for the title. I was in a silly mood.

    I should’ve probably talked to DH before I posted this because he’s pretty anti paint the cabinets. You know what his main comment was? “What if the paint ends up like the stairs?” . . . Stupid SW porch and floor paint! I tried explaining we would be using a quality paint for this blah, blah. (Which is exactly what I said about the stairs.) I think he’s just nervous about the wood painting. Which, I am too but I’d like his approval. So for now they’ll stay but I will continue to plan and he might eventually think changing them is a good idea.

    Tina, See, I’m like you with that and I’m concerned I might not like it just painted solid. If I had SS or black appliances I’d paint the cabinets a creamy color Downsy’s kitchen (love it) but I don’t like cream cabinets with white appliances. I did consider glaze over the white but would that look ok with white appliances? Maybe just glaze in the edges.
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    I think I could like a red island if it was done right. It is a bold color and I’m not tired of my couches (darker) but I couldn’t live with red paint. I just don’t know. I really like this lady’s kitchen with the red island. Couldn’t find pics of the whole kitchen for you but here’s the island finished. You may have seen her blog before.
    http://thebunnysbungalow.blogspot.com/2009/03/take-tour-of-new-island.html

    Val, I’ve was strongly thinking of that over the last couple of days because if I could start over with this kitchen I’d be installing dark cabinets like Kmcgs. I’m not really sure I’d like all the dark with white appliance. Another potential problem with stain is the sides of the cabinets aren’t wood. I’d have to put something there (bb paneling maybe) and attempt to stain it to match. Not impossible but maybe challenging. I really like this kitchen.
    Here’s a before and after pic I really like but notice the counters are light.
    Before:
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    After:
    If my cabinets looked like this, I’d be happy with them. I think it’s that I don’t care for light color wood. If they were light maple I wouldn’t be thrilled either right now. Amazing how your taste can change, huh?
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    Jbrig, I really like that kitchen and like the color red/rust she used there too. I’ll have a heck of a time convincing DH what it’s a good idea to only paint the top though, lol. Such a boy.

    Maybe DH telling me no for now is a good thing and we’ll end up with new appliances first and take a different direction. Blessing in disguise? That’s what I’ll go with for now.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Downsy's kitchen FKB

  • 14 years ago
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    Shee, white painted cabinets can and will hold up just as good as stained IF DONE PROPERLY. And we know you know how to do ANY job right when you set your head to it. My DD painted cheap, ugly, builder grade pickled oak cabinets and she has white appliances. They look 500% better. Pickled oak is the most difficult wood to match wall paint to. SHe too has an island and they trimmed it out with bead board and painted it the same white.

    I painted a tired looking, but decent quality, oak vanity in DH's bathroom as well as the medicine cabinet. I cleaned well, sanded lightly, used Zinzer 123 primer. That stuff is awesome, you just need to be very patient, have a plan, and work fast with it. Then I lightly sanded the primer. Next I painted one coat of SW Pro-Classic in Dove White, very light sanded, and applied another coat. My vanity turned out beautiful, the paint dries to a very hard finish. BM Impervo is also recommended highly for cabinets.

    My DH is in the land excavating business, working with heavy equipment, does his own mechanic work, etc. That means at times he may have to open doors or drawers with dirty hands. He is never careful with anything. I don't mean to imply he is a slob, he really isn't, but if he get a little dirt on the wood, it washes off.

    That didn't really answer your question about your island. There are so many directions you could go in with that and I am sure you will come up with an awesome plan. The only negative I can see with painting the island a color is that it could limit you to decor. But island can always be repainted!

    One other thing, I personally do not like glazed white cabinets. I have seen a few DIY jobs where they just looked nasty and yucky, where a nice smooth paint job would have looked much nicer. But that is just me.

    Tuesday

  • 14 years ago
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    Well you got me, too, Shee. I just finished reading your stair story and thought, oh, no - she didn't, she couldn't, not that fast, she couldn't have prepped right, she's gonna have problems!!!

    That said...... I'm focusing on something you said and hope you'll let it rattle around in your brain for a bit, too.

    *****Amazing how your taste can change, huh? *****

    Those 7 little words are very telling. Now take this with a grain of salt from someone older and not necessarily wiser but certainly more experienced from the school of fickle decorating! The *next big thing* hasn't struck your fancy - yet. But it will. And then you'll be smacking yourself wishing you hadn't painted your cabinets because they seem a step behind. It's not that white cabinets will ever be totally out of style just as cherry cabinets are never truly out but everything has it's moment and when it comes around again in a big way, it's slightly tweaked, and just different enough to make the older incarnation look a bit off. As Magnaverde and others have pointed out, that's the difference between trends and true style.

    At this moment in your life you are very influenced by all that is current and I think you're letting yourself in for a lot of work and expense for a change that will probably provide temporary pleasure. I'm hoping you take that in the spirit intended - that's not a criticism but an assessment of your enthusiasm and almost sponge-like desire to incorporate everything you are learning. You say a true remodel is in the 'someday' plans. Great - until then, I'd look for ways to make smaller changes that will scratch your itch and make your kitchen feel 'more of the moment' to you.

    You have been on a whirlwind of learning about decorating and trying to implement the things that appeal to you and have made HUGE strides in feathering your nest! It's a kick to sit on the sidelines and relate your efforts to my own as a young bride. But in my best mother voice I have to say, I think there are other ways besides painting the cabinets to skin that cat and buy yourself more time with the kitchen you have until you get the kitchen of your dreams. And then I have to add (as my own mother would have!) that you'll probably do it anyway since you never listen to me and have to learn by your experiences!!!

    You're like the daughter I never had ;-)

  • 14 years ago
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    Shee, I painted my melamine cabinets 4 years ago, and they are still as good as the day they were painted. I used BIN primer with no sanding (only a good cleaning), and a couple of coats of BM Cloud White latex, in pearl finish. Considering it is melamine under that paint, they hold up unbelievably well, with no scratches, chips or marks of any kind. And I have a couple of beagles that tend to claw at them occasionally when I'm preparing something they would like to get their snouts on! They also wipe down really well. At the other end of my kitchen, I added some golden oak cabinets that we bought used, and I sanded, primed and painted them white as well. Those ones are over two years since being painted, and again, no chips or marks at all in the paint. I painted all of them with a good brush. The grain in the oak hardly shows at all, mostly on the edges of the raised panel. I cant see it at all on the flat surfaces. It took me about a week from start to finish, when I did the melamine, and that time included glueing on wood trim. It took a little longer for the oak ones, but no more than two weeks to sand, prime and paint them.

  • 14 years ago
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    Tuesday, Oh yeah, I love Zinsser 123 primer and used it on my oak vanity and pretty much most of my painting projects. Thanks for sharing your experiences above. : ) Glad to hear about the smootz washing off. I know what you mean with the DIY paint and glaze. It can look pretty horrid when not done right.

    Dlm, Ha! Yeah, I could’ve slapped a coat of paint that fast but it sure wouldn’t look good or held up. I wasn’t offended by anything you said. It made me smile and I got a chuckle out of the “Spong like desire” .

    I totally get your point about style and trends. That’s been in the back of my mind. Once they’re painted, they’re painted. If I can’t strip and refinish a vanity, there’s no way I’d be touching a project this large.

    “I'd look for ways to make smaller changes that will scratch your itch and make your kitchen feel 'more of the moment' to you.”
    I don’t know what else to do. Each of the small changes I’ve made have improved the kitchen to me eye and did provide that temporary “ahh” feeling but it wore off. The fabric, the paint, the new light, the painted stools, redone island (2xs), corner cabinet…. I’m still left with that ok feeling when I look at it. Normal people would get over it and just deal. I still like the fabric. Could replace the barstools to ones with backs but I didn’t want to go there quite yet. A backsplash finishes a kitchen off but I don’t want to spend the money on one until I can put the refrigerator on the end, which can’t happen until I replace the counters, which won’t happen for a long time. I do like the paint but like how it looks better on the other side of the room with the dark wood table and hutch, BUT maybe that’s the easiest change to spiff it up? (Are you reading this Oakley? :)) Oy, that would be fun convincing DH why I need to repaint. I wish you guys could see it IRL because the colors all look better. My camera doesn't photograph well.
    Open to suggestions for spiffing the room up.

    My taste is definitely still shaping and I wish it would stop. It’s probably good I don’t subscribe to decorating magazines. Lately I can’t seem to get enough of texture and PLAID! I love RL style tartan plaid!! I never liked plaid and now I’m all droool. - Still looking for a Pendleton blanket.

    Getting back on track, honestly… I really want to paint these cabinets white right now but, deep down, my gut is telling me to hold off. Why I don't know, because I don't like my kitchen this way either.

    “You're like the daughter I never had ;-)”
    Aww!

    Balego, Did you use the Regal line? I’m glad to hear they’re holding up and that’s impressive with the beagles!

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    Shee, I am in Canada, so the Regal line is called Collection here, but I used their Moorestyle paint, which is cheaper than the Collection.

    Yes, even I am surprised that the beagles havent yet chipped the paint! One of the dogs is larger, with thick strong nails. But even the smaller dog ends to paw at the cabinets as if digging when I'm working with food that they want a taste of. I can't peel a carrot without the two of them trying to claw their way up to the counter! But so far, no marks, scratches or chips.

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    Hi Shees, let me tell ya, you'll be taking on MUCH more than you bargained for~~been there done that so i'm trying to save you the grief.

    After I finished, my DD said I should have taken the doors to a paint booth, aka, a place where cars/trucks are spray painted. You would get an extra hard finish, but still have to paint the 'guts' or edges of the cabs.

    Just wanted to chime in with a thought for ya. ;o)

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    Shee, I am mostly a lurker here but I like reading your threads. You had me there with the title of the thread.

    No opinions here but wanted to say I understand where you are comming from in regards to change in style. When we bought our house I was in my early 20's and now 10 years down the line I can see how some things I like have changed quite a bit.

    Good luck with the kitchen painting if you decide to do it.

  • 14 years ago
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    Shee, I have a feeling your still gonna be tackling projects when the little ones start appearing in your life!! DH and I built a deck and a fence when mine was about 2 months old....thank goodness for those bouncy seats!

    I really like your kitchen as it is!!

    Smiles:)

  • 14 years ago
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    I'll add my 2 cents too. I remember when someone photoshopped your kitchen with the island red. And I thought "That's it!". I still do. A red that is like the red of your dish towel draped on your oven door (at least on my monitor.)

    If it were my kitchen, I would paint the island red, and leave the rest of the cabinets alone. Much less work, and more impact, in my opinion.

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    You could put a few rows of floating shelves or have the carpenter cut down the ones you have to adapt to the openings.

  • 14 years ago
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    Woo, first off I'm sorry my last post is all weird. It didn't look like that during the preview or even after I posted at first.

    Scooby, Good to hear it's not impossible to still do other things. :) I have so many people telling me I won't have time to do anything but I'll probably just have to adjust elsewhere.

    Barb, Hmm.. I remember green, black, white, but not red. I'm off to search my old photos now. A thing that concerns me with that is my rug under the table, a few feet away (left) has burgundy in the boarder. The rest of the colors in the rug work well with the red fabric in the valance/cushions but it's more burgundy and not a deep red. I think it looks ok because they're not right beside each other but painting the island a dark red might make it clash. I'll look into that more.
    There are burgundy dots in the gold cushions. Still think a red island?
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    Yayagal, Do you mean floating shelves in place of some of the cabinets? Or floating shelves on the island?

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    Shees, now that i've gotten a better look at your kitchen w/table/rug,etc., I have an idea. How about painting drawer fronts, and outer edges of cabinet doors black, and leave everything else as it is? Or you could paint center of doors/drawer fronts black, and change hardware to black. In either case, IMO, the island would look great painted black.

    I would also change out the light fixtures to black or paint the existing ones. Covering the chair cushions in a black print/plaid would pull out the black in the rug a bit more, too. Your kitchen has good bones to start with! ;o)

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    LOl! My theme is the same,but I am serious in starting a folder on the computer. Every time you see something you like, no matter the color or style, throw it in the folder. You WILL see a common thread emerge, whether it is painted cabs, white cabs, dark cabs, classic, country, european, farmhouse...you will see it! You will also feel better about making a confidant decision knowing it is what you like! While DIY is doable, I would bite the bullet on this one a have a painter come in and spray them! Below is a favorite blog of mine that shows how she went from dark stain to light paint. Beautiful kitchen transformation! Scroll down to see the full kitchen post. Then hop over to her DIY and see all the great projects she has done!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Isabella and Max Rooms

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    Patty, Here was a ps of the island done in black. When you're standing at the entrance, like in the first photo, the black island would be right in front of the white refrigerator. This was before the corbels were added. My wheels are still spinning about the island. I don't think the red suggested idea above is going to work after standing in the kitchen looking around last night. It's too close to the rug.
    The color above the cabinets is closer to the true wall color. See my elephant of a refrigerator. :)
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    IRL you can actually see the specks on the chairs and I like it, these photos... no so much. Changing the fabric would be an easy way to change it up but I just did those not that long ago so I'll have to wait for now. I like the idea of a darker fabric but I'd have to choose carefully because my darling cats sleep on those chairs (not the table) quite a bit.
    Here's a photo of the two fabrics
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    Kmcg -Thanks for linking to that blog. Never saw that one. I have to admit, I liked the before kitchen much better!! I know she said the stains didn't match so maybe IRL it didn't look as nice. I favor dark, rich tone wood over painted cabinets any day.

    I have a bunch of photos saved. I do see a pattern but they're so far away from builder my standard, builder grade oak that I can't relate them.

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    How about painting the island a burgundy red and then going over it in a black paint or glaze?

    I just saw a chair done this way and it looked great. The painter had sanded it in certain areas to age it in wear spots.

    And then he put a coat of poly over the whole thing.

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    I'm really liking your kitchen as it is now, with the work you did this year, it has the right amount of black to spice it up, the fabrics have a great presence and add just the right amount of color.
    I agree that SS appliances would be amazing, but I totally understand not doing it just now. Your cabs are pale enough that the white appliances work well. I like the island with no contrast, I don't see that it would be a plus to make it stand out more.

    I personally would not paint the cabs white; I think you would be opening a can of worms, ( not paint, lol) it will change the whole aspect of a kitchen that is basically fine. I can already see your next thread:

    " I painted my cabinets white, now my dining area looks weird, what should I do ?"

    Not that there is anything wrong with asking that but in your case, seeing that your DH is not on board and your kitchen is relatively new, I would sleep on that idea a very long time.

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    Mitchdesj nailed it: if you paint the cabinets white, the dining area will look weird. It will look like a dressed up eat-in area unrelated to the white dominant kitchen.

    You're better off treating your DR & kitchen as one room. The dining room is wonderful, so take your kitchen design cues from the dr. I love the idea of a black or dark red island to tie in with either your pretty DR art work or rug. I like black best; if you're afraid of the dark hole effect, then a glossy black with some shine would help.
    Perhaps matching or similar chandeliers in the DR & over the island? And maybe a runner in the kitchen similar to your DR rug could be the final touch. All these things would coordinate with your lovely DR, dress up your kitchen, and are a heck of lot easier than painting kitchen cabs.

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    Your kitchen looks great as is but I think white would look awesome too. We painted our oak cabinets white and I love them. You are able to spot dirt right away and they have been very durable despite my 5 and 2 year old's best efforts!