Help!! Last minute doubts on cabinet glaze color

11 years ago

We are going to finalize our cabinet order tomorrow morning. Finally! After weeks of having a demolished kitchen (yeah, wrong order, I know now). But I'm having last minute second thoughts about the glaze color. Our cabinets will be beaded inset SW Antique white, both perimeter and island, with a black CF 110 range, wenge countertop for the island, and green minsk for the perimeter. ORB hardware. The walls will be gray/green (most likely Paris rain), with a taupe / gray backspalsh (currently eyeing Smoke and Granada mosaic....mosaic might be too much for everything i have going on, but I love it). Overall feel is traditional with a French influence.

Here's a rough board to show the colors so far:

So now the million dollar question - is Van Dyke Brown too "warm" for what I have in mind? Should I go with more of a charcoal brown color? I think of it as mink, but not sure the actual word. Nor corresponding paint color for that matter. Argh!

The granite is predominantly cream and gray, the dark veins are a really dark green that look almost brown unless light hits it directly.

I can't believe I'm panicking at the last minute, please help! Thanks, SE_ME

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se_me
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11 years ago
Oh and I will have a pewter bib around the sink on the island to pull in more of the gray and to coordinate with the nickel plated sink.
CEFreeman
11 years ago
Sweetie.
You're going to be fine.
Your choices are absolutely beautiful.
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For the pass through, I am thinking that something like this would look a lot simpler/cleaner and less fussy. So you'd be keeping the doorway from the kitchen to the dining room that you were going to close and losing the two tall skinny vertical stacks of cabinets on either side of the passthrough. Not only would that visually break up some of the continuous walls of cabinetry, but instead of that whole complicated area where the oven met the pass through, you'd just have a nice clean, straight line of cabinetry dying into the wall and some open space. Visually, that corner of the kitchen will be a lot less heavy and won't compete with the range for focus. Also, functionally, if you are going to be using the dining room more often, I think it'll be nice to have the dining room that much more open and accessible to the kitchen. My last visual issue is how the angled windows now relate to absolutely nothing. They used to match the island angle and curve around a table. There were reasons for the wall to be like that. Particularly with everything else in the new kitchen's being so square and symmetrical, that architectural oddity looks SO out of place. You might at least do something like this to the island:And maybe do a range hood in an especially angular shape to tie into it all. This one that I posted earlier would probably work: You can see how that would related more to the window/island angles than something like this (made of curves and straight lines) would: When you repeat an element 2-3 times around a room, it looks like a deliberate design choice. With exactly one angle (the windows) in the room now, it doesn't look deliberate. That said, while I think any/all of those changes would make the kitchen look a lot better, it doesn't really address the functional layout problems that make this mostly a one-person kitchen. I'll do a different comment with some suggestions about that. Usually, you determine how much space you have, your goals, and then the general layout that would make the kitchen function best. THEN you figure out how to make the kitchen look pretty with everything where it needs to be to function best. It's always possible to make a functional kitchen beautiful. It is VERY difficult to do the reverse. And just brace yourself -- total symmetry is an enemy of function. The most useful kitchens have things staggered around the room so that people are not on top of each other when using them.
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se_me
Original Author
11 years ago
Thanks Christine. =) I am not usually an indecisive person, but this process is starting to wear on me
se_me
Original Author
11 years ago
I figured at least one person would chime in with a vote for more of a charcoal / dark taupe glaze color. I've been holding out for more input, but I really must approve the order today. It feels so final, it's unsettling.
deedles
11 years ago
Is the charcoal brown leaning a bit to the grey? If so, I'd probably go with that... unless your paint is real creamy. What you posted looks pinkish on my monitor so I can't tell.

I don't blame you for wondering when it's so close to rubber/road time... Everything you have looks lovely, though.

Is it too late ask for a sample quick-like?
chiefy
11 years ago
I think it's really hard for folks to give an opinion without "seeing" what the options really are.

Here's the VanDyke Brown.

Sherwin Williams SW7041 Van Dyke Brown at MyPerfectColor
se_me
Original Author
11 years ago
Thanks deedles and chiefy76. Good point about the colors. The cabinet pictures are not an exact match to what I will have. Follow Chiefy's lead, here's the cabinet swatch, though it doesn't read true on my monitor. It looks lavender, but the real color is just a creamy white.

Sherwin Williams SW1137 Antique White at MyPerfectColor

Problem is I don't really have a backup glaze in mind, would need to pull out my color wheel and request a new sample. Does anyone know of a good charcoal with brown tones? Or a cooler brown? Thanks
deedles
11 years ago
Now that I see the Van Dyke, it looks very nice and looks nice with your white, too.

Glad I don't have to choose this one! Good luck!
SaraKat
11 years ago
I would not put a glaze at all on the cabinets. It's not being done as much now in favor of a more crisp, clean, simple look. At least around here! Good luck, you have chosen some beautiful elements for your new kitchen.
se_me
Original Author
11 years ago
I thought I posted a final response after we placed the cabinet order, but I'm not seeing it here. Didn't mean to be rude; thanks Deedles and SaraKat for chiming in.

I did wind up ordering the cabinets with the Van Dyke Glaze.

I really like the glazed look and the cabinet maker does a very "clean" glaze, a small amount in the beading and the seams. I'm deliberately trying to go a little off the beaten path with elements I love, and I've always longed for glazed cabinets. I do hope I don't tire of it quickly! 7 more weeks to go until they arrive....
susanlynn2012
11 years ago
Se_Me, I love your choices and I think clean glazed cabinets look great! I love both without the glaze and with the glaze if it it not overdone. I can't wait to see pictures and I am sure everyone on this forum is also excited for you.
cakelly1226
11 years ago
Your kitchen plans look amazing!!!!!
chiefy
11 years ago
I'm sure it's going to look great! Can't wait to see the finished pics.
CEFreeman
11 years ago
Have 7 weeks passed yet?
I am really looking forward to seeing things put together.
I don't prefer a white-white kitchen (I'd probably paint it) but do love the way you're softening the whites with other shades, all the way to darks.

Inquiring minds are chomping at the bit to see.
Don't forget about me us.

C.
se_me
Original Author
11 years ago
Thanks guys, appreciate the words of encouragement. There are times when I think I should've hired a KD, especially since I'm an engineer and we are not known for creativity or style, but I love how it's coming together. The cabinets are slated for delivery on Sept 16, so I have a while yet. Playing around with alternate backsplashes now.

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