I just don't see how it could possibly work. The way the foot pedal works is that the bungee is stretched out so always trying to relax. If it relaxes, the door opens. When closing the door, the bungee is stretched. The foot pedal magnet holds the bungee at a stretch when the door is closed. So, in order to close the door, you have to push it till the magnet catches. You have to follow through because if you let go before the magnet catches, the bungee will relax, thus opening the door. The soft close catches the drawer just before it closes and pulls the door the remaining inch or so till it shuts. It's pulling the drawer shut s-l-o-w-l-y. So what you would have is the soft close trying to pull the trash door shut while the bungee is trying to relax and open the door. Who's gonna win? My money is on the bungee. Because if you have soft close, you know that in the process of the drawer closing, you can always grab it and open it back up. The soft close is not going to fight you. As far as I can tell, ya gotta pick one or the other. My kitchen is now over 5.5 years old and has the soft close on all the drawers except the trash pull out where I have the pedal. I'm used to it. I don't think of my trash cabinet as the same as the other drawers. It's become second nature to me to just push it all the way shut, often times with my hip. You know, in the almost six years since the kitchen was completed, I don't think I've ever thought the trash was going to soft close, but I've many times thought there was a foot pedal on another drawer!! LOL.

As far as I know Jbrazmania, no one has managed to figure out a way to use it with inset doors...framed, yes, but inset...not yet anyway! For those interested, the Häfele foot pedals are designed for frameless cabinets. However, our own MeToo2 figured out a way to use them w/framed cabinets. See below for MeToo2's instructions and links to pictures in the Gallery: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From the "Pull Out Trash" thread started by ColdTropics on Fri, Jul 20, 07 at 2:43 Posted by metoo2 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 07 at 19:27 Front View when cabinet is shut: Hafele Foot Pedal Door Opener view when door is shut. Face frame cabinets-full overlay. .....http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_fron.html?cat=kitchens View of foot pedal when cabinet is open. Keep in mind this view will be hidden when trash cans are in the cabinet: Hafele foot pedal door opener. Portion of the foot pedal attached to face frame bottom. .....http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_door.html?cat=kitchens Metal plate mounted on bottom back of door. This is the plate that is 3.5" tall--to deal with a face framed cabinet: Hafele foot pedal door opener. This is the metal plate that must be mounted on the inside bottom of the door. I had to make a plate 3.5" tall in order to work with a face frame cabinet. .....http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_meta.html?cat=kitchens Finally, looking at the bottom of the cabinet. Glued a scrap of wood to the back of the face frame. Hafele foot pedal door opener. View from the front bottom of the cabinet. Note that I glued a scrap piece of wood to the back of the face frame to reinforce the installation. .....http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_unde.html?cat=kitchens Posted by metoo2 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 07 at 20:01 muscat: The rails are always attached to the door-regardless of whether your trash cans hang from a rail, or your trash cans sit on a base. In your picture, the cans sit on a base. I believe that my modifications will also work with your situation (cans sitting on a base). However, you will need to make one minor modification that I did not do. That modification has to do with the elastic cords that come with the pedal. Elastic cords (ie, bungee cords) pull the door open when the pedal is kicked. You would have to alter where the front of the cords are mounted inside the cabinet. Very easy to do. Earlier posts on this thread refer to a version of the Hafele pedal for trash cans which sit on a base. I have not seen this product. I suspect they use the identical pedal, but altered the instructions relative to the location where to mount the elastic cords. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hafele foot pedal (502.15.220) for bins hanging from rails (see bottom of page): .....

The only one I know about is the one made by Häfele. Others have asked and no one seems to know of any other either. You should be able to find installation info on either the Häfele site or one of the sites that sells it. There are two versions...one for trash cans mounted on rails (like yours) and one for trash cans mounted in a drawer-like base. Note that both are designed for frameless cabinets. However, a resourceful GWer posted what s/he did to adapt hers/his to framed cabinets. S/he has the rail type. See the info below. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From the "Pull Out Trash" thread started by ColdTropics on Fri, Jul 20, 07 at 2:43 Posted by metoo2 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 07 at 19:27 Front View when cabinet is shut: http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_fron.html?cat=kitchens View of foot pedal when cabinet is open: http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_door.html?cat=kitchens Keep in mind this view will be hidden when trash cans are in the cabinet. Metal plate mounted on bottom back of door: http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_meta.html?cat=kitchens This is the plate that is 3.5" tall--to deal with a face framed cabinet. Finally, looking at the bottom of the cabinet: http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_unde.html?cat=kitchens Glued a scrap of wood to the back of the face frame. Posted by metoo2 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 07 at 20:01 muscat: The rails are always attached to the door-regardless of whether your trash cans hang from a rail, or your trash cans sit on a base. In your picture, the cans sit on a base. I believe that my modifications will also work with your situation (cans sitting on a base). However, you will need to make one minor modification that I did not do. That modification has to do with the elastic cords that come with the pedal. Elastic cords (ie, bungee cords) pull the door open when the pedal is kicked. You would have to alter where the front of the cords are mounted inside the cabinet. Very easy to do. Earlier posts on this thread refer to a version of the Häfele pedal for trash cans which sit on a base. I have not seen this product. I suspect they use the identical pedal, but altered the instructions relative to the location where to mount the elastic cords. Posted by lowspark (My Page) on Fri, Jul 20, 07 at 11:02 I'm not sure what the door mount kit is, but you have to have a pull out trash in order for the foot pedal to work. In other words, your trash bins should be hanging from a rail attached to the door OR sitting on a shelf attached to the door. The door should pull open like a drawer (not swing open like a normal cab) and as it pulls open the trash bins come out with it. Note that Häfele makes two different pedals, one for the bins hanging from rails and one for the bins sitting on the shelf. I'm not clear on which one you've linked to above. Also note that these foot pedals are designed for frameless cabs. I don't know if they can or have been used on framed cabs and would be interested to hear about that if anyone has. Here are the links I have to the two kinds of Häfele pedals: Pedal for trash can which hangs from rails: http://www.kitchensource.com/trash/ha-5-44.htm Pedal for trash can which sits on base: http://www.kitchensource.com/trash/ha-5-43.htm ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Note: In the two links above, the foot pedals are on the bottom of the pages. Click on the "Specs (PDF)" link below the picture. Other places than KitchenSource also sell these. (When determining your "best" price, be sure to factor in tax and shipping!) HTH!

Gaaa, another decision to make! I'm glad you posted for help, aek9y, because otherwise this detail might have slipped by me. Is the Double Electric Assist Waste Containers that Rev-a-Shelf charges a ridiculous amount of money the same thing? Does anyone know if we accomplish the same thing with the Double Bottom Mount Rev-A-Motion⢠Wood Waste Containers with the IKEA Utrusta added to it? It might save us a little money but what it will gain us is a 1 1/4" of height, which will help since we're putting a pull-out garbage unit in our sink base beneath an undermount Silgranite sink (on the left side of a right drain sink). We're fine with 35 qt cans. We currently only have a 20 qt can under our sink. We won't have height issues with our other garbage pull-out in the island. We need 4 bins for garbage, mixed recycling, glass recycling and returnables and putting one beneath our sink was the only way to get 2 pull-outs in without giving up other much-needed storage. Would someone please measure the distance from the top of the can to the cab frame for the drawer above for me? I keep looking at the photos but I can't tell how much room there is between can and cab top to know what is possible for my situation. Thank you!