Oh, I forgot to mention that the DO are located approx 15' from corner cooktop.

I would not, under any circumstance, give up the opportunity to have an induction cooktop. It'll totally change your perspective of cooking. I'm going to have my oven stack separated from my induction cooktop and am not troubled by it. If it really concerns you, what if you were to install one oven under the counter in your island by where you plan the MW. Then you could either put the MW in the stack with the other oven or by the frig and have additional storage by the oven wall.

You are planning such an excellently appointed kitchen. I would hate to see you change to a range, giving up both the flexibility of the dble ovens and the amazing induction. Do you move things from the cooktop to the oven that often? I don't, so having them separated turned out to be very easy to adjust to.

I would swap your pantry and cooktop (and also the dw to the other side of the sink). Then all your food storage is together (fridge and pantry) and your ovens are near your cooktop.

I'd leave the double ovens where they are and use a cooktop. It's a more streamlined look & easier to keep clean.

About that garlic bread--I started using a Pizza Pizzazz to make mine; otherwise I would burn it no matter where the ovens are!

remodelfla, I also meant to ask you how far your DO are from your cooktop? I am planning a lot of dish storage in my island in drawers because it'll be easy to unload from DW and DR table is on other side of island so don't want to give up space for a single oven.

The best layout depends on how you cook. For me, the pantry and fridge near each other (and the m/w) makes sense. Putting groceries away or getting everything out for a meal would be easier. I don't cook in a m/w, I just use it for heating things, so for me it has no relation to the cooktop, just the pantry and fridge. Just about everything that makes it from the fridge to the cooktop in my kitchen has to pass by the sink, and the fridge is equidistant from the sink in either location. I unwrap meats and wash veggies in the sink before prepping them. I also tend to sear stuff and then cook it in the oven, especially in winter, but a lot of those types of dishes could be completed on a low burner on the stove (I guess especially with induction), so the proximity to the ovens might not be vital.

on further thought, remodelfla's idea of having a single oven where the MW is and moving MW next to frig would allow me to still have an induction cooktop and would move the oven into the work triangle. That would make for a very efficient work triangle. It would probably mean giving up the DO's entirely because I don't think I can buy 2 single wall ovens for the price I paid for the DO since they were half price unless I found another killer deal.

What about that option?

I'm uninformed I guess. I thought double ovens were just two same sized single ovens that you could separate. Do both ovens have the same functions? I'm planning a 30" convection oven and a speed cook/convection/MW type oven (Advantium?). Mine will be around 8' apart from the cooktop I think. I gave the architect a layout but am waiting on one with his measurements.

I think you're overthinking this. Your double ovens were a great deal, will work wonderfully and will provide great flexibility. I would not trade double ovens for a single oven. Also, if you cook like we do (more than one person cooking/prepping), a single oven in the island right behind the cooktop would be in the way of the person at the cooktop. I like the ovens in your current location -- makes a great baking center with that nice stretch of countertop and the island; and a sink in between cooktop and ovens.

I don't know anything about your family, but from my perspective (we have 2 little kids), if I were going to change anything in your current layout, I would move the MW next to the fridge and put in a small prep/handwashing sink on the island where you have the MW to make a nice snack zone with the fridge-MW-handwashing sink. Be sure to include dry goods snack storage next to the fridge, too, so the snackers can grab cereal, easy mac, crackers, etc., and make their own snacks, breakfast and lunches.

I don't think I'd want an oven in my island -- if I was planning to use that island for prepping. I think it's ok to have the oven out of the way, but as mentioned previously, it depends how you cook (sure I think it's ok -- my oven's been broken since January, so I don't even think about baking any more!).

I would totally keep that induction cooktop (and that appliance-happy hubby, too!). And I'd keep the ovens, too, and fridge near the cooktop. I'm tempted by the thought of a range w/ big and small ovens in it, but when I think of bending all the way down to the floor to lift up a turkey (or even, as I get older, a pie),...I really prefer the DOs in the wall.

It's looking like a great kitchen either way!

Are you committed to the corner pantry?

Since there seems to be plenty of counter space, IÂd put the DOs in the corner where the pantry is and make the entire wall where you have them now pantry space.

My dbl oven is about 6 ft from my rangetop, but like I said, don't consider that an issue, as I almost never move anything from one to the other. They could be farther apart and it wouldn't bother me. I do use my micro for cooking parts of our meals, and for thawing, so I like it handy to both the fridge and rangetop.

I agree with Sarschlos that since you have the ovens and your layout is pretty darn good (I've never seen a perfect one), I'd quit worrying. But I also think backinthesaddle has a good suggestion. It would, though, change your pantry from walk-in to cabinet or closet-type, and that wouldn't be as good to me...But it might solve your worries about distance to the oven, and it's all about your priorities and what you can be happy with.

mrs-mjt, I definitely wouldn't give up the double ovens or the induction cooktop. Your layout is wonderful...time to stop second guessing (you really did fall into that black hole)! You will love not having to bend to access the ovens and you will love induction cooking. My cooktop will be 13 ft from my ovens. It isn't perfect (and I got some strong criticism on this forum for it), but like you, I don't use the ovens that much and it will be worth it not to not have to bend when I do use them and to have my long waited for induction. I can't wait to see your kitchen when it's done.

"I probably won't use the DO frequently"

There's your answer. With a cooktop, I'd assume you'd use the space underneath for pots & pans. Would you use those often? You bet you would! Of course, if you're not an oven user, "standing in front of a hot oven" is also not a big disadvantage. And if it's just garlic bread you're checking, a toaster oven is easier, faster and more efficient...

I also agree with Sarschlos that you've stepped into the 'overthinking zone' -- and I have a very high threshhold for overthinking!

You've got a great layout and you got a great deal on some fabulous appliances. For most of us, that's as good as it gets! ;-)

I don't think you should eliminate the corner pantry...it's much more versatile than pantry cabinets, IMHO. Not only can you store all shapes & sizes in step-in or walk-in pantries, but they also provide more storage space in the same area...you can store things all the way from the floor to the ceiling!

I also agree about the oven in the island (or anywhere undercounter) for two reasons: (1) it will definitely interfere w/anyone trying to work in the area (sink or cooktop) and (2) undercounter ovens are actually lower (closer to the floor) than ovens in ranges...so if you think the oven in a range is too low, an undercounter one will be worse. [My KD showed me an undercounter installed oven and the handle was practically on the floor when the oven door was opened!]

Right now you have a perfect Baking Center for when you do bake...counter space to mix/roll/knead dough, near the pantry for baking supplies, right next to the DOs, and next to the island where you can cool those yummy baked goods while still working at the Baking Center!

Lastly...induction...don't give it up!!! I tried so hard to talk my DH into induction but he wouldn't budge...so I'm stuck w/an electric cooktop for many years to come (at least until either the cooktop irreparably dies outside of its warranty or the kids are out of college...many years down the road!)

HTH!

Nice layout,
I possibly would have liked the Refrig switched with the wall ovens
You go to the Frig to the sink and the sink to the range, so either way the refrig would be close to the sink.
When you open the refrig door now you have to take out what you need and then close the door to put it on the counter
next to it or behind on the island.
(which in reality is not that big a deal)
The switch would solve the problem with the ovens and the refrig door.

Depending on what refrigerator you have the opening direction may or may not be an issue...although with the island positioned as it is you do not have to close the refrigerator to put things down--you just turn to the island. If the refrigerator is a FD model, then it doesn't matter.

For those interested in previous discussions about Mrs-mjt's kitchen, see the linked thread below.

Here is a link that might be useful: Previous Thread: Please help! 2nd attempt at layout!

Me, guilty of overthinking....never happens! (smile) You've got me pegged very well!!! Thanks soooo much for your input once again.

remodelfla, to answer your question about DO....they come in a stack so can't be separated. Mine will have the availability of convection in both ovens which is another plus. I was appliance shopping today for a Frig and DW and when I told the guy the brand of DO's I bought, he went on and on about how wonderful they are so that was further confirmation.

backinthesaddle, Yes, I am committed to the corner pantry. I tried to get rid of it earlier to do a cabinet wall pantry but it drove up the cabinet costs significantly so I'm sticking with it because it is a lot less $$ to build and will provide LOTS of acessible storage as buehl mentioned.

cheri127 , Glad to hear I'm not the only one "hiking" to my cooktop! Perhaps it'll keep me fit as I get older! :)

sarschlos_remodeler, thanks for the input about placing MW next to frig as I'm still contemplating that decision. My leaning toward the island is because I could grab leftovers from frig, set on island, get dishes & silverware (stored in island), then reheat and eat. Plus MW would be closer to baking center if I needed to melt butter, etc.. AND it would allow upper cabinet next to frig to be used for water glasses and additional storage.

O.K., I'll stop 2nd guessing....until the next major decision! :) You are all the best! Thanks again!