Is 1 1/4 true 'full overlay' -calling cabinet experts

14 years ago

I'm ordering RTA cabinets from Conestoga. I requested full overlay on all of my quotes and it says "1 1/4". Apparently there is an even closer overlay (1 3/8), but it isn't advised according to my vendor because of hitting/mounting issues. Does that mean that my doors won't look like full overlay? I thought that if I had full overlay, I wouldn't see seams between my cabinets. Any experts that can chime in and educate me on this? Thanks!

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sombreuil_mongrel

14 years ago

This is how Conestoga 1 1/4" overlay looks gap-wise.

1 3/8" overlay looks like frameless cabinets, so close that the door edges must be profiled or they rub each other when opening/closing. (requires a lot of fussing with the hinge adjusters)
Casey

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Buehl
14 years ago
What do those #s represent/mean? Are they inches? A term to indicate a ratio? Something else?

If they're inches b/w the edge of the cabinet & the drawer face or door, then 1-1/4" is too much, IMHO.

These are my full overlay...definitely nowhere near 1-1/4"....

I just measured a couple of mine...there's 1/4" b/w the edge of the cabinet & the drawer face/door and 1/2" b/w the edges of adjacent drawer faces/doors (1/4" on each cabinet). So, while your vendor is correct there must be some space, 1-1/4" is excessive, IMO!

So first, we (or at least I!) need to know what "1-1/4" & "1-3/8" mean?

[BTW...1-1/4 = 1-2/8]
idrive65
14 years ago
Buehl, when I was shopping cabinets, it refered to how many inches the cabinet overlayed the opening. Partial overlay would be, oh 3/4" I think, full overlay was bigger. Therefore 1 3/8" is a "closer" overlay than 1 1/4".

c-mom, can you view samples and see the difference?
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carolinesmom
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14 years ago
I wish I had pics, but cabinetauthority's website doesn't show them; another Conesotga vendor had an illustration, but now I can't find it. buehl is correct. I should've included this info; I was told that there would be a 1/4" from edge of frame to door and 1/2" total between adjacent drawers and doors. I guess 1/2" sounded like a lot to me, but I don't know. How does that work if you have butt doors? Center stile required? Buehl if thats what you have (and your pic looks good to me), then I guess I'm getting what's considered full ovelay??
junicb
14 years ago
Carolinesmom - are you going through Cabinet Authority? How do you like them so far? Any reason you went with them over Cabinetmaker's Choice? Did you order a sample door? (Can you tell that I am working on my Conestoga order right now?)
carolinesmom
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14 years ago
junicb,
You know, I didn't even contact cabinemakers choice; for no other reason than I came upon Cabinet Authority first and Rick said he would give me a discount based on quantity (it's big; whole house) and I have bugged the absolute you know what out of him, nickel and diming my order; I would feel guilty putting him through all of this! We had a foundation overrun in our construction and it's put a major cramp in my kitchen budget, so I'm having to scrutinize every single detail. That said, being a free marketplace and all, I might share my final final FINAL order with the other folks and see how they come in, if I don't like the final quote I get from Cabinet Authority, just to see how they differ. I would love to hear more about this process; are you having trouble sleeping and getting a major crash course in cabinetry components, as I am? My husband thinks I'm a nutcase. Thank God for Gardenweb and its kitchenistas!
granite-girl
14 years ago
1 1/4" overlay is considered a full overlay. Stiles/ rails (I forget what they're called) are 1 1/2" so the door overlays the stile by 1 1/4" leaving a 1/4". Traditional overlays are 3/8" -1/2" overlaying the stile leaving 1" or more. look at Buehl's cabinets, you can tell they are full overlay & don't really notice the seam or gap, there's only 1 " line" between the doors/drawers.
As far as I know there isn't any closer overlay, I can't remember a 1 3/8" overlay.
Good Luck

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carolinesmom
Original Author
14 years ago
Casey,
Thanks so much for posting and explanation; a pic is worth a 1,000 words!
junicb
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needsometips08
14 years ago
I just got a quote and they specified that there would be no more than 1/8" gap.
dbmy
12 years ago
Carolinesmom - did u end up ordering conestoga via cabinet authority?
Can you share your feelings on them and your conestoga cabinets?

We r also working on a large possible order thru them for conestoga

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