New Grout Discoloration Issues
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Why does our new grout look discolored?
Comments (20)Well, I'll throw out another wild one. I'm looking at those joints and they look wider than 1/8". And you said he used unsanded grout? And it appears this guy like to water his grout...I'm almost thinking that if he did a lousy job the first time around, he had problems with the unsanded shrinking during the curing. Especially if he likes water. Maybe a little flaking, a little cracking, a few pinholes opening up. Then he came back on the subsequent visit and grouted again over the existing grout to hide and fill in the blemishes. But that's just too crazy for me to speculate like that. I'm almost tempted to recommend a few ideas, mainly try a Q-tip dipped in bleach to see if the dark stuff low on the wall isn't mildew, and try a bit of an acid, even mild vinegar, on the white stuff down low on the wall to see if the white stuff is efflorescence that the acid will dissolve away. I keep coming back to your first photo: In the vertical wall-wall corner joint that is grouted, the right part of the grout joint looks like the original quartz color. the white stripe on the left part of the grout joint, as well as the white in the horizontal grout lines above the first course of tile, looks like efflorescence. The dark along the tub looks like mildew or moisture. But if the light and dark have been there forever, both efflorescence and mildew take a while to form. If your water has heavy minerals or it's heavily chlorinated, that might be a player. If is he used old bags of grout that were past their shelf life that could be an issue too. Or a contaminated mixing bucket. Or... But as you can tell, I'm just scratching my head and guessing. Does the white grout have a different texture? If you scrape the white with a fingernail, does it powder off? If it does come off, is there any of the true "quartz color" underneath it? Have you tried cleaning this grout at all? Like in my first post, I just keep leaning towards the idea that too much water was used. When I first looked at the photos of the upper walls, they looked like areas of good grout with a few blotchy dark streaks. Now I look at them and see the uniform light color being almost all efflorescence, or I'm seeing grout that has had the surface cream/pigment washed away, and the "dark blotchy areas" are actually the proper quartz color! I'd love to see this shower with my own eyes to figure it out. I probably have to take my son down to William and Mary for a college visit later this month. Bill, how about a road trip? A few crab cakes, catch a lacrosse game while we're down there, we can check out this shower all while taking my son for a college visit? Too bad the Orioles are going to be at Fenway instead of the other way around. Road trip!!! Seriously though, have you tried cleaning the grout with anything? A neutral pH cleaner and a bit of elbow......See MoreHelp! Grout Discoloration on New Shower Floor
Comments (61)I've tiled my own two bathrooms and my kitchen backsplash, so when my adult daughter's shower sprung a leak at her "new" (circa 1950) home, DH & I came to the rescue. Ripped out the whole tub surround (it gave up without a fight), fixed the plumbing, reinsulated, added backerboard, taped, mudded and commenced to tiling. Got complicated around the tub; being an old steel tub, it has about a 1" flange around the top edges as though it's supposed to bolt to something? We ran the backerboard down to within 1/4th" of that flange, did the tape /mud/dry time thing and then commenced to tiling. When I got to the grout, I must say, the grout was a tad drier than I'd liked for it to be, but I worked quickly and thought I'd done okay. We spaced the bottom row of tile to cover that backerboard/flange gap, which it did okay. Then I left my daughters to finish grouting the normal 1/4th gap around the edge of the tub. I would have used caulk, but since the gap varied some, the girls used the regular grout to finish off that bottom edge and the corners. Are you with me so far? It looked really nice. Now I notice a lot of little tiny cracks in the grout all over and I'm thinking I'll be okay to just smash in another coat of it. (She hasn't used any tile sealer, yet.) EXCEPT.........she called tonite to say the whole bottom row of that grout is soaking wet, coming out in big soggy clumps and some of the tile with it. My thoughts are that she didn't let the tile cure enough before going in and using it, so now we need to pull out all the soggy stuff and redo it from there. So, the questions are: did we handle the backerboard/tile/grout around that flange right? Or is there just enough movement in a steel tub to disallow a grout (vs caulk) to flex. If that makes any sense.......And the second question is: am I on the right track to fix it? How long does it REALLY take for tile to cure enough to take a shower? Please tell me I don't have to take down this whole job.....this is a single mother with a TEENAGE daughter who will just DIE if she doesn't get to shower. Thanks for reading this far............. mm...See MoreGrout issues with new tile installation
Comments (3)I wouldn't remove the grout unless there was some kind of structural problem with the installation. I removed my grout haze by spraying on vinegar and wiping clean but it was on porcelain tile with epoxy grout which are both fairly bulletproof. I had the same problem with my grout being a rainbow of different colors because the clowns who did my kitchen floor had no idea what they were doing. I bought myself some Aquamix Grout Colorant (I used the same color as the original grout) and followed the instructions on the bottle. It turned out beautifully. Just like new. If you apply this particular grout colorant, you will not have to seal the grout since in addition to coloring it also seals....See MoreGrout Issues with New Tile Istallation
Comments (3)I feel your pain. There is nothing more pointlessly stupid than ruining a tile job with a sloppy grout job. I've gotten rid of tile guys for just that reason. Since the grout is new, it can be removed with a utility knife (if the grout saw doesn't fit). Don't dig too deep, There is also an extra thin grout blade for an oscillating tool (eg. multimaster). That would speed it up. You might look into epoxy or urethane grout, but certainly don't use those same guys to regrout. If they can't even mix cement grout properly, there's no hope. BTW, the haze should have been removed a couple hours after the grouting (a dry t-shirt works well). At that time it's easy. Leaving it for the next day or longer just makes it that much more difficult. They sell products to assist in haze removal, but I recall white vinegar helps. You would need to look it up to be sure. Good luck. Edit: you can scape off the chunks with a putty knife or window scraper blade. Also, how in the world did the glass get installed before addressing this mess??! Incredible what goes on. One more thing, even if they used a master tiler for setting, they apparently left the grouting for some schlub in a rush. Happens all too often. I had a marble installer with 30 years experience do that to me once. I never let it happen a second time, that's for sure. This post was edited by homebound on Fri, Jun 27, 14 at 9:11...See Morepudgybaby
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