mdf or real wood for inset on doors
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Comments (8)You can have reverse raised panel, or a veneered panel. With reverse raised panel, the wood will be "stripey" as it will be composed of many different strips of wood to achieve that solid panel. With a veneer panel, you will get the prettier grain pattern. Veneer panels are generally on top of a MDF core although it could also be plywood. MDF is preferred for veneering as it doesn't have any grain to telegraph through the veneer and spoil the look. If your panel is recessed on both sided, then you have a veneer panel. If the recess is only on the front, and the rear is raised and the wood is stripey, then you have a reverse raised panel. One is not "better" than the other, just more expensive. Veneer has long been used in furniture flat panels and using it in the recess panel is a perfectly fine choice....See MoreWhich is Better: Hard Wood VS MDF Raised Door Panels?
Comments (7)Basically, MDF is less prone to movement(expansion/contraction) due to seasonal temperature changes than solid wood. The construction of a raised panel door necessitated the panel be installed without glue/fasteners to allow for that seasonal movement. An example of allowing =for that movement in a dining room table is when the builder makes slots for the fasteners between the top and base instead of locking the top to the base with screws/glue. However, most MDF will retain moisture when in a wet condition----standing water is a flooded basement---for instance. There is a possibility, IMHO, that dripping water off the counter could land on the panels and seep into the groove made for the raised panel. Enough of that and the MDF would swell, causing the rail to crack. The type of wood used also has a bearing----oak is less absorbent, but looks terrible(IMHO) painted without filling the grain. Maple is good, poplar absorbs moisture more easily. It boils down to the climate and uses in your kitchen to determine the construction materials---as well as your wishes. Sounds to me like you'd rather have the wood---and real wood raised panels for the same price as MDF panels is a good deal----or the MDF panels are way overpriced....See MorePainted Flat Panel Cabinet doors - MDF or wood panel?
Comments (17)From the attached link: Raised Panel - Solid Even though the panel is called solid, it is not usually made of a single piece of wood. Wood expands and contracts with changes in humidity, and this can cause the door to split and crack. To counteract the problems of natural movement in a solid wood center panel, the panel is usually constructed using several pieces of solid stock lumber glued together. The wood strips used to construct the panel may not all match in graining and color. As in the case of the slab door, the door's strength comes from the manner in which the pieces of solid wood are reversed as they are glued. The panel is then cut on all four sides, so the center is higher than the edges. The face of the panel is usually flush with the front surface of the stiles and rails, with the edges forming a tongue which fits a corresponding groove cut into the door frame. The groove is slightly larger than the panel's edge to allow the panel to float in the frame. This simply means that the panel has room to expand and contract during humidity changes, reducing the risk of the panel cracking or splitting. I gather from the Woodmode site that this is how they construct raised panel doors as they describe their raised panel doors as being constructed from solid wood. How big an issue the movement of the centre panel in a flat panel door will be probably depends on geography (I have seen some dramatic examples here that am sure would not be acceptable to many folks while I tend to think the hairline cracking I have seen is part of the charm and patina of age of painted cabinetry. In terms of Woodmode they do kiln dry all their wood which may in part explain why they have not have felt they would get better performance from an MDF centre panel that some companies are opting for. I also think it is a market issue a lot of Consumer's in the US have a real aversion to composite wood products regardless of the possible benefits (this does not really carry over to Europe or Canada). Cabico and many other Quebec companies offer 100% MDF doors for paint finishes (same opaque finishes are usually available on maple at Cabico). Lots of their MDF door styles are raised panel. Here is a link that might be useful: Explanation of door styles...See MoreKitchen cabinets - MDF versus hardwood doors/drawer fronts
Comments (9)You said you ordered the Doors wood with MDF panel - that will not eliminate the paint fissures from expansion and contraction - the wood parts will still move. The mdf panel helps because it is not moving but it is not the cure all. I have a company who does doors made of all MDF but put together like a regular door is and while the paint lines are minimal they are not marketing the product as not ever getting those lines. It will still be possible but much less. As far as chipping goes, I think that will happen no matter what the door is made of. Have a conversation with your KD and see what the real deal is and go from there....Maybe they will let you use one of the doors as a test... bang it around, bump it with pots, soak it with water, spill stuff on it and see what you think ( but you should try that with wood too....) Good luck!...See Moreenright5
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