Are your kitchen drawers and cabs unfinished inside?
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Comments (42)I used a Rev-a-shelf for the flatware - originally planned on a 2 layer system but this works fine. For the knife drawer - love the insert - I hated the one that came with the drawer. 2 21 inch drawers flatware only Knives only - Wusthoff insert Junk drawer - several modifications since the picture...See MorePlywood or particle board boxes on your kitchen cabs?
Comments (36)>>Not sure how you can have adjustable shelves in particle board- (is that a possibility?) Not only do I have 19 yr old particleboard kitchen cabs in perfect shape (Kraftmaid frameless Euro6 line), I've owned painted particleboard bookcases for over 30 years, lugging them around from place to place. And yes, the KM cabs are completely adjustable with pins, no problem. There IS a difference in quality to look for. 3/4" is not as good as 1" (you can see some of the thinner particleboard cubes below show some bowing, although at 19 yrs in the same configuration they have yet to fall apart). And high-density is a lot better than low-density. Here's a photo of a mix of 3/4" and 1" bookcases and cubes. Notice the 2-shelf unit on the bottom LH, of 1" board? One of the oldest ones I have, it has been loaded with those extraordinarily heavy art and coffeetable books for thirty years. If you stacked up all the books that are on one shelf there, it's 30" high and I'll bet no person here would be able to lift them all at once. BTW, ignore the tilt in some of the vertical stacked cubes - we used L-brackets to bolt each individual piece to the wall for earthquake proofing, so it tilted some of the cubes forward as we worked upwards. Also, these are only half of the bookcases; we have 8 full-height teak-veneered particleboard bookcases in other rooms, also heavily loaded, and all over 20 yrs old. I can assure you, having moved these books and bookcases around several intracity relocations, each one of those bookshelves is holding much more weight than is being held on my fully-loaded, 75-lb capacity rollout KM pantry shelves in the kitchen. Lousy quality particleboard will bend under the weight of a few folded sweaters - I can attest to that, I've owned some of it (and had to throw it out). OTOH, lousy quality plywood is just as bad. We also own the "solid wood" Home Depot Masterbath bathroom cabs - what crappy plywood it is! 1/2" ply so flimsy, I was surprised it managed to support the weight of the double sink countertop without crashing to the floor. You'd better believe I'd never stand on the Masterbath cabs - but I have stood on the KM cabs without any problems, and at 230 lbs. I'm not exactly lightweight. The point made about the quality of interior veneers is an excellent one, and far too often overlooked. The interior veneer used by KM in 1989 is far superior to what they use now. I put dishes away wet and even had a six-month slow leak in our sink cab that did no damage outside of a quarter-sized bubble raised in the veneer, no substrate damage. There is an additional cost to using particleboard that should be noted - you should never go over 30" wide without a - I don't know the right woodworking term - front vertical support slat? - to help prevent the shelves from bowing. Plywood can go 36-48" in width, depending upon board thickness and weight capacity desired. Therefore, you should use more, slightly narrow cabs in particleboard, than you can use in plywood. That is the ONLY advantage of plywood, IMHO, coming from someone who has put frameless particleboard boxes through a lot more heavy use than most people ever manage. Being able to use fewer, larger cabs can sometimes save enough $$ to be worth the upgrade cost, for those who prefer plywood anyway. Plywood cabs are lighter and easier to DIY. Installers hate particleboard because it takes 2-3 people to do the install and it's a lot more heavy work. But either material IF of good quality, will be able to last so long you'll get tired of it before you'll see it disintegrate....See MoreThree or four drawers in lower cab? Drawer heights?
Comments (18)I ended up going with 4 drawers in all my drawer banks and all fo the base cabinets in my main work areas are drawer banks. I measured EVERYTHING and found there were only 5-6 things that I planned to store in a drawer that wouldn't fit, and so I am planning to store them either in uppers, in the sink bases (will have separate trash pullouts), or nearby in some base cabinets that are only 17" deep. I, too, struggled with the problem of getting banks of different configurations to look right together. I finally just decided all drawer banks would be 6,8,8,8 which will give me about 4,6,6,6 of actual drawer height. I keep second guessing my decision, but then I go back to my list of measurements and feel reassured. I figure I can always get a couple new drawer fronts and reconfigure if I hate it....See MoreHow's the wear & tear on your white kitchen cabs?
Comments (13)When I am at other people's houses, I just look and take mental note. I am really surprised at how differently white cabinets wear. One family has white cabinets that are chipping everywhere. The cabinets are maybe 5 to 7 years old. They have 4 kids. Another family had the kitchen done less than 1 year ago. When they were opening their drawers, I noticed the paint chipping at the top edges of drawers. When the drawers are closed, you can't see the chipping. Other families seem to have no issues with paint chipping. I would consider paint chipping to be the biggest bugaboo for me. Others just consider this as par for the course of having white painted cabinets.... Then there is the distressed finish, which would eliminate all of these issues. My 20 year old cabinet that came out were honey stained maple. The finish was wearing hear and there but it was not as obvious as white paint chipping. I think it is essential that you ask the rep to show you white kitchens that have been in use for a period of time and assess the level of wear and tear for yourself....See MoreRelated Professionals
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