Ikea vs. Semi-Custom
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Comments (9)jrldh wrothe, "...Given how uniform the true custom homes that people post here on this forum look, I'd say that it's a waste of money to go true custom..." Actually, the majority of the homes posted here are stock plans from the Internet or from builder's tracts or plan books. And they are often very similar, since builders go to the same trade shows, look at other builder's houses (especially those that sell) and replicate them. Many of the homeowners who post their "own" plans here, freely acknowledge that they have visited open houses and their friend's homes and "borrowed" what they have found appealing. None of these homes are "custom" or "architect-designed"--they are "borrowed" and "replicated" homes. It doesn't matter if someone adds some stone to the outside or swaps carpet for hardwood on the inside. Taking the misuse of terminology further, many posters write that the take their preliminary drawings to "an architect" to have their plans "drawn up". Architects do not "draw up" someone else's plans. In many states, they are prevented by law from doing so. Looking at the final plans, and their frequent lack of imagination (and often lack of resolution), it's clear that it really was a drafter who was responsible, not an experienced architect. In some cases, after questioning, the poster will acknowledge the author of the final plan was the drafter at the local lumberyard. So even the term "architect" is often misused here. To experienced observers, this is almost always immediatedly clear. To others, however, it may never be understood. So we can use and value "custom" and "architect-designed" based on our own personal preferences and value systems, but as the Bard said so well, "a rose by any other name is still a rose". It's just that they may not always smell so sweet!...See MoreWhere can i get semi-custom bookshelves besides IKEA?
Comments (0)We want to put bookshelves (actually, media storage) in our office. I like the built-in look  the shelves will span an entire wall and need to be customizable with doors and open shelves. I found something I like at IKEA but am a little worried about the quality. IÂd like to do some comparison shopping at other places. Does anyone have any suggestions?...See MoreIKEA in Semi-custom and Custom Homes
Comments (37)Interesting thread! We built our home 15 years ago and had custom built (and I mean a single guy built them himself) cabinets throughout the house. All solid wood. Book matched. No stain--let the natural beauty of the wood show!. Maple in the kitchen. Cherry in the bar area. Walnut in the kitchenette in the lower level. They are beautiful, no doubt. My husband is a hobbyist woodworker and is a total SNOB about cabinetry. Then we bought a vacation/retirement home in northern CA a couple of years ago. Renovating it now. Here's how I looked at it. - The boxes for the kitchen cabs need to be solid, well built - If I get frameless boxes, I have the choice of changing the doors if I want something different down the road - I want a decent amount of options for designing the space, but I have long ago decided that I never will be a professional cook, and I don't need every single design feature (those of you who cook a ton deserve those clever design details!). - I wanted high end finishes (counter and backsplash in particular). - We have to spend a lot of money on the rest of the renovation and I didn't want to spend so much on the kitchen that I limited what we spent on other areas. So, we looked at IKEA. Don't be scared by the furniture. The cabinets are totally different. When we looked at what we could pay for IKEA cabs relative to other cabinet manufacturers, it was easy to say yes. We considered custom doors, but in the end we decided to do the doors with IKEA too. DH and I assembled and hung a lot of them. He is VERY handy, and he has said many times that it's all about the installation if you are DIY. We found a local former cabinet maker to finish the installation (we had to travel back home). Interesting thing is this guy, who is an amazing cabinet maker, said he can't stay in business doing cabinets any longer because he just can't compete with IKEA (this may be more true in CA than other parts of the country). Now, when I compare the kitchen in both homes, one doesn't feel more "high end" than the other. They are simply very different. Both look custom built. When we sell our current home, will 90% of the buyers out there realize the quality of our cabinets? Nope. I'm sure someone will walk in and say "I can't wait to paint these wood cabinets white". LOL! I will say that working with IKEA is easiest if there is one near you. The people in the stores seem to be very knowledgeable and eager to help. During their kitchen sales it is busy, so go on a Tuesday or Weds. And there is a learning curve when it comes to ordering. What made our process a PIA was doing it from a distance. I won't go into the gory details! Good luck with your decision!...See Morecustom vs semi custom build
Comments (15)For a spec home, the builder/developer typically writes their own generic list of specs and allowances for the project to build a plan that they have selected. This helps ensure they are able to control the building costs and process through their chosen team with as little input from the client as possible. A spec house builder proposes what they think you will want in the home and will usually make simple change order adjustments up or down based on your selections during the project. As a custom builder, I can tell you that simple process doesn’t cut it for most custom home building projects. Custom homes begin with the vision of the client and architect as a collaborative effort. The architect usually provides an extremely detailed set of building plans and an accompanying set of building specifications for each project. It’s best for the Owner to have selected their Builder early in the design process so that we may review the evolution of the project and suggest ways to control the budget. We have had a number of clients over the years who called in a panic after the plans were complete and they began receiving their first bids on the project from other builders that far exceeded the budget. They were painted into a corner without knowing how much the project would cost. Good architects help eliminate that problem early. Anyway, our job as a custom builder is to review all the plans and specs and develop a list of any problems we see that need to be addressed as well as evaluate the allowance values that are sometimes established by the architect during the bid process. Our job is to evaluate someone’s vision and assemble all of the details to make it happen. After a series of lengthy planning meetings between Owner and Builder before the contract is signed, we hash out as many potential selections, upgrades, value savings deducts as possible and then use the architects specs as a guideline to create our own contract set of specs for the owner. This process of getting to know the client is what defines most custom builders. The more we know about the client, what inspires them, their trigger points which may affect the project, the better. And when it comes time to build the home, every detail has to be perfect and the client owns your schedule until the home is done. We charge more because custom homes take up way more time than spec homes. As for allowances, we provide allowances for things like tile, flooring, cabinetry, countertops, appliances, water wells, etc. The appliance allowance includes a quote from our preferred vendor with all model numbers. When the time comes for the client to pick out certain products, they know the budget, and they are welcome to shop as many vendors as they wish. My time is included to help with coordination if they chose my preferred vendor. I charge extra for additional coordination time to evaluate multiple vendors because that process requires much more time. I hope this helps. Every builder has their own method that works for them. This is just how we approach the process. Best of luck!...See Morecaryscott
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