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'Hotel Chic'- A Rant

16 years ago

Since when did hotel rooms become the barometer by which comfort, style and elegence are measured? Since when did aspiring to mimic the sterile, impersonal and utterly designless interiors of hotel rooms become so "hot"?

It used to be that hotels were trying to mimic homes to make guests feel more comfortable. When did that change? More importantly- why?

The whole buzz about creating "that spa-like retreat at home" irritates me like nails on a chalk board. The whole idea of trying to replicate a hotel room makes absolutely no sense to me what-so-ever. If you want a retreat, GO somewhere. If you want a hotel room, GO to one.

Has anyone really stayed in a hotel room nice enough to recreate the same thing at home? Honestly?

Seriously. Why would anyone actually do this on purpose?

{{!gwi}}

Comments (65)

  • 16 years ago

    organic,
    you said, "But these things are really so subjective."

    i could not agree more because i , contrary to you, am at a time in my life where i am craving sterile and very orderly environments, I've had warm and homey forever, it feels heavy now; I'm peeling off layers of accumulating and collecting in my home .

    I think people enjoy the clean and spare feeling of boutique hotels and spas and try to bring that feeling to their home at least in their MBR and bath areas.

  • 16 years ago

    The last hotel I stayed in was the Monaco in Portland, OR. I will link to the virtual tour below in case anyone wants to take a gander. It was the most anti-hotel hotel decor I have ever seen and it was great fun! Check out the King Suite (to which we were upgraded) and don't miss the Lobby.

    As for bringing the hotel experience home, the only thing I've tried to replicate is the featherbed at the Sofitel we stayed in last October. My life will never be the same after sleeping in that bed! Unfortunately, employing full-time fluffing staff is beyond my means.

    Here is a link that might be useful: The anti-hotel look

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  • 16 years ago

    Since I can never take vacations, making my home half as comfortable as a hotel, would be fine by me. With that said, I think there is nothing wrong with the look of a hotel room, especially if you've ever stayed at the beautiful old hotels in N.O., but the fact that it's my house, it will never make me feel like I'm truly "away".

  • 16 years ago

    I stayed at a Crown Plaze in San Francisco a few weeks ago and they made such a big deal about their fabulous bed and bedding. It looked similar to the picture above.

    It was fine, and it was very comfortable, but in my home I am quite sure that I would never, ever put the coffee pot in the bathroom. I'm just picky that way.

  • 16 years ago

    Hotels have tended to adopt some conveniences before they are common in the home - touch on/off lamps, bathroom phones, and mini fridges, for example - that offer functionality that is a luxury. Hotels offer a great environment to steal ideas from highly-paid interior designers whom I don't have access to in my everyday life! I imagine the appeal is also to take home the relaxation and happiness one feels when traveling. Hotels are designed to be inviting and comfortable ( of course, not every hotel, or every home, achieves this level). Being surrounded by uncluttered, high-quality furnishings brings me a feeling of calmness. Having Rome or London outside helps too . . . but one canÂt have everything!
    Its easy to add personal touches at home while aiming for the comfort offered by my favorite boutique or 5 star hotels. :)
    Elizabeth

  • 16 years ago

    OK- so maybe it's 'cuz I'm stone broke that I don't appreciate the "hotel chic sensibility". I've never stayed in a hotel that cost of $30/night. More often than not I stay at a friends or sleep in the car (as when I go to San Francisco).

    "It's like someone who knows how to cook aspiring to serve her guests 'hotel food.'"

    I couldn't have said it better myself, magnaverde. I "aspire" to your level of succinctness in my writing.

    Sable, in fact I did see that selection of shows with Candice. She remains my prefered HGTV personality but I was a little put off when someone I admire more-or-less stooped to the level of generic commercial interior design. Blech! I also agree with you in that I need "my room"- such as it is, funky socks in the corner and everything.

    On the other hand- here is a hotel room I would sell my bone marrow for...

    {{!gwi}}

  • 16 years ago

    This has been such an interesting thread to follow. When I decorated our bedroom, I made it the "retreat" that would make DH & I happy, not win any prizes for decorating. Although definitely not spa-like, to us it's more beautiful than any luxuary hotel room could ever be. The Hyatt Regency Tamaya Resort is fairly close by and we're always getting "great weekend deals" offered to us locals at "bargain" prices of $450 (or so) to spend a weekend in one of their "serene spa-like" room. While I can see the beauty of a clean-lined, elegant hotel room ~ and I definitely enjoy them more than the older version hotel rooms ~ we always opt to spend $0 instead, enjoying the weekend in our own room ;^P. IMHO, spa-like rooms are a bit too minimal for me to live in practically, day in and day out.
    Lynn

  • 16 years ago

    Miles,
    I couldn't agree more. I dislike staying in hotels. I don't like being in a room that has a window on only one wall (and the windows seldom open.) I don't like heavy sheets and layers of bedding; I like mine soft and cuddly. I don't like wall-to-wall carpeting (JMHO.) I somehow feel I'm suffocating in a hotel. The luxuries don't add comfort; they add another layer of depersonalization.

    The last Hotel I stayed at was the Brown Palace in Denver, which, as hotels go, does have some character, but the only thing I found admirable was the tea service.

    I can certainly understand a desire for a minimalist environment, or as mitch said, a clean and spare look, but I feel the wholesale copying of hotel decor comes more from a feeling of insecurity that "home" is somehow not enough. In magazines I see "restaurant" style kitchens with professional stoves and living rooms that resemble nothing so much as hotel lobbies. You see the entryway with the chandelier, enormous round table and the staggering bouquet. Everything looks precise; everything is square and completely finished, everything matches and nothing is out of place. There is nothing of the wabi-sabi that brings depth and feeling to the rooms. For years now I believe that has more or less defined the upscale home. I do think we are on the tale end of this, and I think it has to do with increases in inflation and more environmental awareness. Stuff is no longer cheap, nor it is disposable. I hope we'll be seeing a more practical, personal, homey look - and maybe hotels will go back to copying that!

    (But then, maybe the grapes are just sour - this is coming from someone with an old house where nothing is square or perfect, lots of things are out of place, and to say it has wabi-sabi would be very polite :-)

  • 16 years ago

    The point of having nice hotels/motels nowadays that imitate real life is to make the traveler more comfortable. I find that many try to analyze everything to the point of making ourselves or those around us sick. Would it be that those travelers, male and female alike, stay in a flop house? Hotels/motels have come a long way for the average travelers since the 60s.

    I think the boomer generation has demanded it as there are so many from the hippie generation who were the yuppies requiring that they get good lodging for their capitalist dollar. That these hotels and motels are of a capitalist mindset and met those demands by hiring decorators and professionals to make it so, led the way for more creative decorating in small spaces, spaces that function in an attractive and realistic manner way. Not all of us have the luxury of living in a McMansion, so our homes are smaller and need to function in a similar fashion.

    I like traditional furnishings and love everything that came from my grandmother and my house is done with "stuff" I like and inherited which has nothing to do with what hotel/motel I might stay.

    Having said that, I much prefer the hotels/motels in this and the former decade to what I stayed in when I was traveling a great deal in the late 60s/early 70s.

    I am not jealous of the frequent traveler who spends his/her time in these situations nor am I jealous of anyone who never has. Life is what it is. Some of us travel, some do not. Some of us have McMansions, I do not but I celebrate for those who do and am not envious of their lifestyle.

    About that gourmet meal, hotel/motel food is better than the bag lunches some of us had to carry in the past when we traveled. Even Mickey D became a hero to us looking for a bathroom and a burger.

  • 16 years ago

    Interesting read....but if you were getting your home ready to put on the market, would you make your room more like a up-scale hotel? I happen to like my floral bed set, but I also have heard enough "staging" shows that says that I should not have that anymore....so will try to use all white bedding and "depersonalize" it....but hope it doesn't take too long to sell.....that is just "not me".
    What would you do?

  • 16 years ago

    Phoggie,
    If you are selling your home, depersonalize entirely. Especially in today's market. My home was on the market for 6 months. It was definitely depersonalized and neutral, and in move-in condition. I was just talking about how lucky I was.

  • 16 years ago

    Not all 4- and 5-star motels/hotels have solid bed covering. The 4- and 5-star ones that I have stayed in most recently had very high end fabrics for their bedcovering with matching or mix/match/blending draperies and upholstered furniture. Some of the upholstery on the French chairs was either a silk or a faux silk. The computer tables were French that matched the armoires.

  • 16 years ago

    You know, one very positive thing about these spa-like hotel rooms, is that they're now using bedding that's a lot easier to wash. I doubt if the bedspreads of old got washed more than once a month, if that (I still shudder at the thought of some of them!). The layered bedding with no real spread at all, but sheets and a thin blanket and throw at the foot of the bed, makes me feel a heck of a lot better! It looks and feels cleaner to me.
    I have a good freind who loves her own personal spa-like bedroom. She leads a hectic life and wanted a very calming, zen-like (her words) room to relax in. The pared down look in her bedroom is really lovely and works wonderfully for her.

  • 16 years ago

    patricia, to be honest- I didn't understand a single word you posted. I certainly do not intend to make anyone sick by analyzing what I think is a shallow trend. Nor did I suggest anyone stay in "flop houses" (whatever those are).
    I am suggesting that hotels, in fact, don't imitate "home" anymore, and that homes (bedrooms) have begun to imitate hotels. A strange thing, if you ask me.

  • 16 years ago

    I think there are hotel rooms.... then there are hotel ROOMS.

    I also think these shows are no different than the many magazines we all seek out for inspiration. As far as not having the personal touch like pictures and such neither do any of the magazines and model homes we aspire to.....well some do they're just not personal to my family....BTW who ARE those people living in those model homes anyway????... LOL.

    Showing hotels is just another avenue to give you a direction you might want to head in.

    I like warm rustic or ethnic type decor. I also love to travel. The first two rooms I've linked bring back wonderful memories for me. Although I'm not thinking of doing a bedroom in "tent camp" decor...I am thinking of incorporating some of these warmer designs into my office.
    {{!gwi}}

    {{!gwi}}

  • 16 years ago

    Miles, I never said you were analyzing it too much. I said "we," or some of "us." I was merely implying that the hotels and motels I stay in today are so much better than what I have stayed in, in the years past, and only because today most, even the lower prices ones, are more upscale and less flop house than those of the past.

    If you think that had anything to do with you, then perhaps you were right, you did not understand a word I said.

  • 16 years ago

    [BTW, Miles, speaking of flophouses & under-$30-a night places to stay, check out the new (well, new in January) eating area in Hosteling International's Hostel on the Upper West Side in NY.


    It's in a landmark Victorian Gothic building by Richard Morris Hunt, just a few blocks from the Hill & the Loch & the Glen in my favorite area of Central Park, it's full of fun and/or intersting people--last visit, during the Winter Antiques Show over at the Louis Comfort Tiffany-decorated 7th Regiment Armory, I spent a few days hanging out with with a rugby player from Argentina, an architectural writer from England, a Korean medical student & an Irish rocker-- and it beats a boring minimal hotel room--no matter how well-appointed--any day. Also beats the back seat of the car. Best of all, it's cheap. Now, I've never been to SF, but I know there's a hostel there. Better check it out. M.]

  • 16 years ago

    I actually really like that. Looks super-clean. I think the acqua and padded benches give it some warmth, too.

  • 16 years ago

    I'm not a big hotel fan either, so "Hotel Chic" doesn't do much for me. Now, give me a place like this and I'm in heaven though ...

    {{!gwi}}

    (We stayed here a couple of years ago - San Jose del Cabo, Mexico)

  • 16 years ago

    Some hotel rooms can be inspirational. Like the one that we stayed in at Thornburg Castle. My DH swore that there was a ghost in the fireplace. Could have been Henry VIII.

  • 16 years ago

    Well, thank you for that explanation, patricia. As a HS drop-out (I have a GED now) I have very limited means by which to understand the complex methods you smart folk communicate in.

    So you are correct- I didn't understand, and not sure I do even now.

  • 16 years ago

    I think part of the craze is that celebrities and their decorators etc.usually aren't staying in fabulous private homes (the number of stately mansions has dwindled shockingly) so that the frame of reference for luxury is a hotel or resort. And magazine editors are always happy for advertising, so featuring commercial places isn't the taboo that it once was.

    And the idea that you can have everything by just phoning downstairs certainly appeals to me. When I traveled for work, I stayed in wonderful places (because I worked on Lifestyles of.... and we were comp'ed) and TravelLodges.

  • 16 years ago

    Be careful, Miles. Once you are booted out of this place, they block your IP address and you won't be able to sign on under a new name like you do at HGTV.

  • 16 years ago

    That is really unfair, gray' to call me out like that. Nothing I posted was out of line. I was simply explaining my lack of understanding for someone elses' post. If that brings with it the risk of being IP-blocked (something easily circumvented) then perhaps this is also not the right forum for me.

    Your "tip" is noted.

  • 16 years ago

    And referencing Magneverde:

    My husband's a chef, and I can't tell you the number of hostesses who try to cook him restaurant food. Competitive cooking used to be a serious endeavor for some of my fellow moms. It's usually a disaster. Good home cooking is great--no need to duplicate Wolfgang.

  • 16 years ago

    I'm with the minimalists here - although I find the room you posted is rather dull and certainly not anything I'd want in my home. IMHO the great majority of hotel rooms are not worth copying, but there are truly special hotels that do bring a certain sense of style that I would like to replicate in my home. One of my favorites is the Sofitel in Philadelphia. I love the glass doors and the detail in the molding at the ceiling which is a strip of dark wood with chrome inserts. The rooms they picture don't have drapes with pattern, but the rooms we've stayed in had pattern that was reinterpreted in other places in the room - well done, warm and friendly modern decor. The floral arrangements in the Hotel President Wilson, Geneva were incredible. It's unfortunate they don't have any pictures of their lobby or the floral arrangements in the lobby because they were the most fascinating, spectacular, modern display of flowers I've ever seen (not the traditional big florals that you normally see in lobbies) - and they mix true antiques with modern furniture with such flair. We had a lot of flowers in our suite and the bathroom marble tile work was incredibly sophisticated and complicated. I noticed snippets of this hotel when we saw the film Syriana - I pointed out to DH - look, we've stayed at that hotel and now it's in a film with George Clooney - wish I was there when George was filming LOL.

    Like anything used as a source for ideas - you pick and choose what works for you and your family. If you bring back an idea to replicate in your home it will be a daily reminder of a great vacation.

    Sky

  • 16 years ago

    The current "hotel chic" mania is just the fad du jour, sort of industrial-strength Pottery Barn. It too, will pass.

    The only hotels I really feel "at home" in are Ritz Carltons!

  • 16 years ago

    Why should MIles be "booted out" of the forum? I don't think he said anything rude or insulting. Again, I really do think there is some miscommunication happening today. And again, just my $.02.

  • 16 years ago

    Geez is the moon full or something?

    aunt jen - there are hotel rooms and then there are HOTEL ROOMS!!! Now that's a HOTEL ROOM!!

  • 16 years ago

    We stayed here a couple of years ago - Green Valley Spa....sigh ! It'd never work here in Chicago but there it was sublime.

    {{!gwi}}

  • 16 years ago

    I'm not a fan of idustrial-strength PB either. However, I do believe that hotel ideas can be used like any other medium on the grand pallet. If you do nothing but bring say... the way the pillows look on dlm2000's picture above into your guest room... than that hotel room has done something special for you. How about the gorgeous red in auntjen's slice of heaven or the chocolate and white contrasts in my tent camp picture. You don't have to eat the whole cake, just maybe a crumb here and there.

    Actually I hope it doesn't pass to soon.....I need all the inspiration I can get! LOL

  • 16 years ago

    Anybody see the show (20/20? Dateline?) on how filthy even 5-star hotels can be? THINK of the dust mites! Not to mention--um--other things. . .

    Staying in hotels creeps me out. I can't even walk on the carpet without shoes on.

    Okay, I'm a freak.

  • 16 years ago

    I put a towel on the bottom of the tub : )

  • 16 years ago

    I agree, kats, and believe that the more streamlined look represents a desire to pare down and edit belongings and "fuss" in this increasingly busy world. Nothing wrong with it, but for those who don't care for that look the pendulum will eventually swing again towards over-accessorizing. I'm still finding my happy medium :)

  • 16 years ago

    What the heck? Why the corrections? How Nice do you have to be around here?

    Dlm2000 ~ OMG, Green Valley Spa? I'm there! That is gorgeous. Is that the room you stayed in? "Sigh" is right!

  • 16 years ago

    OS, I love ya, but I'm glad you're not my attorney. LOL

  • 16 years ago

    (Totally ignoring the cat fight around me -- what's up with all this over-sensitivity these days?):

    When I travel for work, I get to stay in some seriously fabulous hotels and resorts, and they are truly luxurious and zen-like. For my brdroom, I appreciate cool, quiet and zenlike atmospheres. Granted, my room will have my books on the night stand, and a tad more personality, but all in all, I much prefer (a) washable bedding that feels like laying on/in a cloud (b) blackout curtains for total darkness any time I want to take a snooze -- day or night and (c) a pretty armoire to hide the TV and a comfy chair and ottoman in which to take a break from my hectic life. Hard to find fault with the amenities of a really nice hotel or resort. My favorites so far have been the resort casitas.

  • 16 years ago

    >>>>>I put a towel on the bottom of the tubLOL squirrel - we all know the cooties can't reach you if you sit on a towel ;-)

    woodlander that's a pic off their website but just like the room we stayed in. What you can't see are the roses outside the doors - glorious roses all over the property. You can see some of the gardens cruising through their website. That was the first time I slept on a featherbed and it prompted us to purchase one

    Here is a link that might be useful: Green Valley Spa

  • 16 years ago

    omg, I would never soak in there! Showers only : )

    (I'm talkin' shower tubs here, regular but nice hotels : ) I actually love to do inns or B&B's.

  • 16 years ago

    >

    I'd be glad she wasn't the other guy's attorney!

  • 16 years ago

    I have no idea what you girls are talking about. :)

  • 16 years ago

    I won't answer that on grounds it may incriminate me. LOL Squirrel, you want to take a stab at it?

  • 16 years ago

    Just getting into this thread. I had to post a photo of one of my favorite hotel rooms. If I could duplicate this look, I would!

    Kahala Mandarin Oriental in Hawaii

    {{!gwi}}

  • 16 years ago

    Dh and I recently stayed at a non fancy motel - The Pisgah Inn- and while it was not luxurious at all it had a great deal of craftman charm.
    I kept thinking "I wish our house were like this"..and ultimately decided it was because everything was designed for comfort and the total absence of personal items was freeing.

    I loved laying on the bed watching a tv hanging from the ceiling. I loved not having tons of pillows on the bed and having nothing at all on the dresser.
    Having a refrigerator in our bedroom was fun too.

    I mentioned to dh that I loved the tv/dvd up high like that and wasn't that relaxing. That I would like to have a tv in our bedroom -which we don't - and he just mumbled something about that's just for hotels.
    It would be freeing to have a very uncluttered house, with nothing but the bare essentials and all the furniture really comfortable - like oversized recliners.
    Of course, I'd want the view from the porch too.

    Here is a link that might be useful: nice view

  • 16 years ago

    If I could duplicate some of Candice's bedrooms, I would in a split second. But I don't have the large spaces that she uses. One of these days the master bedroom will have the cozy look of all those fluffy pillows. Just once it would be great. I remember that back in the late eighties, DH and I stayed in a hotel called "Fantasy Land Hotel" in Edmonton. We were out there for his brother's wedding. After shopping in the West Edmonton Mall and stopping in one of the bars on Bourbon Street, the night the Edmonton Oilers won the Stanley Cup. We all had too much Wild Turkey and were in no shape to drive. The closest place in walking distance was the Fantasy Land" At that time one night cost $200.00. Definetly a waste of money. We had the room that had a Yellow Chev Pickup Truck for a bed. Mirrors on the ceiling, and a hot tub right in the room. I don't want to copy that room ever. lol

  • 16 years ago

    Haha Misty. I had a similar experience not too long ago. We planned a weekend in Ithaca, NY.. a much needed getaway. Unfortunately it was parents' weekend at Cornell and the hotels and inns were full. The only room we could find was in the turret of a seemingly very nicely appointed inn. Oh boy was our impression wrong. We walk into the room-- connected to the rest of the inn by an uncovered bridge to the turret-- there in front of us was a round bed with mirrors on the ceiling.. and LAWN FURNITURE stuffed into the very small space between the bed and the round walls. The bed was pretty much the whole room. There was a lovely jacuzzi tub with beautiful views but it was set immediately above the bed-- so that one (or two) could presumably roll out of the tub into the bed. YUCK. I wondered how or if they kept the mattress clean. (Though I have a vague recollection that it may have been a waterbed hahah)

    We got a good laugh out of the whole experience but man, it was so not my idea of sexy or romantic... and we actually paid MORE for that room.

    That said, it is usually the small inns that I want to steal ideas from.. not the hotels.

  • 16 years ago

    funny story , misty; you too , funkyart, lol.......

    "Yellow Chev Pickup Truck for a bed", whose fantasy would that be?
    rocky mcqueen, maybe?

  • 16 years ago

    haha well some of us have some very fond memories of a chevy pickup. ;)

  • 16 years ago

    And then there was the time when I arrived at a hotel so late at night that there was only one room left -- the floor through five room suite. But that's not exactly the experience that I would want to duplicate at home. What I would want to duplicate was sharing the elevator with Cary Grant.

  • 16 years ago

    DH belongs to a club that does a fancy weekend away for the wives every December (the guys way of saying thanks for putting up with them all year). Anyway one couple decided to have it in an old ghost town hotel where Clark Gable and Dorothy Lombare stayed one night on their honeymoon (like back in the 30's???). Well lucky some of us heard about it and put the skids on it before it was booked. I might have gone with it but the biggest down-side...every 5 rooms had to share one bathroom!

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