Wooops! I meant to write "...as an owner of their products...".

Hehehe

Owner? I read it how you meant it...but still funny in the context of the second message

Looking at Marvin windows now so I had to read this!

IIRC, other wood window manufacturers, such as Pella, had problems too because of the faulty preservative.

I also have Marvin Windows in my home. I started replacing the old windows which were the original in the house built in the 40's. It is impossible now to stop the continual rot of the windows that we are seeing. Every winter I think about what the spring will show on the windows. We have decided to replace "AGAIN" all of the marvin windows but are unsure if anything is going to last as long as a coffee pot. I regret ever touching the old windows. All we had to be concerned about was recaulking the windows. God wasn't that the nice days.

Old news is right. An almost 7 year old thread!

My window problem is current. You have problems having an old thread with newer information then contact houzz.com. Just wanted another opinion known about Marvin windows. Impossible maintenance, poor quality product and no service.

Laurie, no offense but if you are having that much issue with "rotting" wood windows you may need to look at other areas for the underlying cause. As Ken asked how old are these "Marvin" windows. I have been in the window and door business for 30 plus years and even the bottom of the barrel wood windows last 10 -15 years generally before r"rotting" with any sort of maintenance (the bottom of the barrel more than likely will not open and shut or operate properly but not rot)

My soon to be old windows are all wood and I am not asking for assistance, just stating the facts. The windows are rotting because of the quality of wood that Marvin uses. They might as well be made out of balsa.

The windows never have a problem opening and closing and they "rot" in all the exact same way. It starts where the end grain hits the sill. The mold runs up the end grain side and across the sill. The windows are maintained PERFECTLY so all the Marvin shills can shuffle off somewhere else.

Sounds like it was the problem they had with the wood preservative not necessarily the type of wood used. I'm assuming these were installed in the late 1990s early 2000s which the class action suit referred to in the links the originally OP posted. When did your warranty period end?

That class action lawsuit was for wood windows and doors manufactured between 1985 and 1989. This is NOT when my windows were manufactured.

"The windows are maintained PERFECTLY so all the Marvin shills can shuffle off somewhere else."

Not a shill and I could actually careless what people buy or use, and I haven't sold a wood window in years. I don't shuffle, and I am not going anywhere sorry to say. I just try and offer help and potential advice. I stated no offense to you but since you retorted. You come on here and blame the windows 100% and slam Marvin (could be any brand doesn't matter) yet offer no info on the age of the windows or how they are installed. You state PERFECTLY maintained but we have to accept your word on that. Does wood wick water thru end grain, yeah. Does it do it frequently yes it can. Are they ways and steps to minimize this, yes there are and in my opinion if you are having this issue repetitively and with all your windows they are not or could not be perfectly maintained. Every window company uses wood with end grain as realistically it is impossible not to and Ponderosa PIne

So when we're your windows installed? I'm assuming the warranty expired?

We've had Marvin Windows for years. No issues until we installed new windows about six weeks ago and we already have wood going bad. Just plain defective right out of the gate. Marvin hasn't exactly been falling all over themselves to straighten this out rapidly. I totally agree with the poster that said the wood is like balsa wood. It's just nothing like the product Marvin used to sell. Just for the record that's not water damage that's where the factory applied paint is coming off the wood. If you can enlarge the image or look closely you can see the entire frame is de-laminating. FWIW these are aluminum clad. I have all wood windows from Marvin (2006) that are built like a Sherman tank.