Pella sued over Architect and Designer Series
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Comments (3)I have also noticed many people bashing Pella, we install multiple lines of windows and Pella being one of them, that being said Pella is a great window. It is my belief that more than likely the people who are unhappy with Pella actually have installation issues, regardless of what they may say or who may have looked at the problems. Any wood window if not installed properly will begin to rot, if installed properly a wood frame window with a cladding on the outside will last for a lifetime when properly installed and maintained...See MorePella Designer with Blinds Quote
Comments (10)There are only a few manufacturers offing the blinds in glass which I have read about: Pella, Sunrise, and Eagle. Pella only offers them in fixed and casement style. Using two casements in the combination window adds to the cost. The "triple pane" description is deceptive, I agree. Pella has closed the local independent showroom and now serves the area from almost 200 miles away. They are pushing installation by themselves, not through their "certified contractors". Lowes Pellas special order price is sweetened a bit by a current promotion offering a $400 gift card for a $2500 purchase. There is might be another 10% discount for using a "mover's card" and 5% for using a Lowes credit card. I'm going to check prices with Sunrise and Eagle using sliders instead of casements. I've been told that the blinds in these brands are not as attractive as are the Pellas....See MorePella Architect vs. Designer: relative cost?
Comments (4)Architect series is double glazed (insulating glass with Low E and argon gas). Designer series is usually triple glazed (insulating glass Low E argon plus gas a 3rd pane) but they do have a double glazed (single glazed plus a removable 2nd layer - stick with triple in Designer). Designer series costs more than Architect series in part because it is three layers of glass instead of two. It's been my observation that Designer series triple glazed costs about $50-$100 more than Architect series double glazed. That price does not include between-glass blinds. Blinds probably add another $175-$225. Blinds, shades, grilles, are optional. As for which is the higher end product, it depends on what you're looking for. In casements, they use the same frame, hardware, weatherstrip, etc., and only the sashes are different. So they essentially perform the same (for air/water infiltration resistence) except for insulating propertirs of double glazed vs. triple glazed. In double hungs, both are vey good, but Architect series is the higher rated of the two for air/water and Designer is higher rated for insulation because of the three panes. Frankmol, if you're paying $425 for Architect but $1,100 for Designer there is something definately wrong there. I've put in a LOT of windows from various brands over the last 30 years, and I like Pella, but there is NO WAY the difference should be that much. You should expect to pay maybe $100 each more at most, plus the cost of blinds if you get those. It sounds like your dealer or contractor is artificially jacking the price way up on one series but not the other....See MorePella Architect Series Versus? in PA $1535/window
Comments (7)Hi Needwindows. Thanks for your comments. While I am well aware that there are cheaper windows available I'm not interested in vinyl replacement windows if for nothing else but aesthetics. (Vinyl siding on a house will always look like vinyl versus true clapboard or stone; vinyl floors may mimic but will not look like true tile.) I'm hoping others on this board might be able to provide insight on a true "apples to apples" comparison w/ other wood/wood clad high grade windows on par w/ the Pella architect series. I'm cutting and pasting some comments I found on the web that I think give a fair overview of the wood vs vinyl issues: Their are major difference in not only wood and vinyl but also aluminum to vinyl. Window salespeople like to talk about R and U factors in discussing window insulation. Industry standard is approx .35, thats for wood, vinyl and aluminum. Here's the catch...that rating is at the center of the glass and DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MATERIAL OF THE FRAME. Wood is a natural insulator, its an organic material...but also comes with the highest price point. Aluminum, obviously is metal so ambient temps which can reach below zero in our winters gives very little insulation from the frame. Vinyl has its problems in the opposite end of the spectrum, summer. Vinyl is PLASTIC, frame surface temps can reach 140 degrees...plastic begins to breakdown at those temps which is why vinyl is none for SEAL FAILURE. Seal failure=merky looking windows, white cascades on the glass...insulation is nil when this occurs. The cascades of white is actually moss build up from condensation. Being in the field, I can tell you that wood holds up the best over the long haul. The price is damaging to the wallet and ego. Beware of insulation factors with aluminum but they are durable and have a niche with the cost concious. If you feel like saving money up front but have the means to replace windows every 6-8 years buy vinyl. Another hint for you home owners- the reputable window makers have higher prices but also accomadate with the easiest payment programs. Don't let "cash on hand" be the deciding factor here...payment programs are the way to go and salespeople will actually give you a better prices if you use the payment programs. Posted by: Jay at September 17, 2005 2:14 AM I replaced 55+ double-hung, wooden sash windows with white vinyl windows and had not a single seal failure in over 8 years. I discovered a tiny crack in one pane, which was barely visible. No sash lock failure, either. The quality in the construction of these windows varies greatly, however. Having said that, you can always tell it is a vinyl window and not wood, just like vinyl vs. clapboard siding on a colonial or Victorian. If I owned a $2 million brownstone, I might spend the money and go for the aesthetic appeal and insulating qualities of wood....See Morenadianyc
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