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Anderson 400 Tilt-Wash Double Hung or Marvin Ultimate Double Hung

11 years ago

We are installing 12 insert (not full tear-out) windows in our home, and we are deciding between these two types of windows. Marvin costs more, and we are wondering what you get for the extra cost. Any advice appreciated!!

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HomeSealed Exteriors, LLC

6 years ago

last modified: 6 years ago

Donald, while I'd agree that full frame removal installations have multiple circumstances where they would be the preferred option, it would be categorically incorrect to state that "pocket installations do not address any issues that may have resulted from the previous windows".

Most homeowners are replacing their windows for energy efficiency, functionality, comfort, aesthetics, less maintenance, improved home value, etc. Pocket installs check all of those boxes and save money to boot. Now if the existing frames have substantial rot, new interior wood work is needed/desired, there is existing water infiltration, and/or the existing units are relatively narrow to the point that losing another 1/2" or so of glass per side would be noticeable (and so much so to justify hundreds more per window), then full frames are a very worthy consideration in those cases.

I don't mean to be argumentative in the least, but both installation styles are very viable depending on circumstances, and each has some pros and cons.

To the point of the thread, I'd agree with the consensus that Marvin is the superior option here.

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Windows on Washington Ltd
11 years ago
I think the Marvin is prettier to start with, extruded Aluminum cladding, and I have heard fewer complaints about the Ultimates as compared to the 400s. I have surveyed a few sets of the 400s for unhappy customers for several reasons. Haven't (could just be dumb luck) had to do the same for any Ultimates customers.

Herb (Millworkman) knows wood like its his job (Sarcasm) and I am sure he will have some feedback.
millworkman
11 years ago
Not real familiar with the "insert" windows but I feel any of the Marvin Ultimates are a much better window than the Anderson. The 400 series in a new construction is a solid window and better than most but still not even close to on par with the Ultimates.
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toddinmn
11 years ago
The biggest difference between these 2 windows is the jambliner system.The Andersen uses an exposed vinyl jambliner that is a compression style. The Marvin track system is clad with wood so you do not see any vinyl. The other big difference is how they tilt in, the Marvin tilts in like a modern vinyl window(easy) the Andersen titls in like an old school jambliner system.The Andersen A series or Woodright would compare closer to the Marvin in features and price,
As far as perforance goes there will not be a big difference with the exception of Andersens vastly superior air infiltration numbers.
I have had more problems with Marvins, but that really was a product of the installaltion.
PRO
Windows on Washington Ltd
11 years ago
Todd,

Do you have any of the air data on the 400 that you can email me? I have a customer's house that is literally howling with the prevailing wind and as far as I can tell, they are hung pretty well (new construction).

Eric
toddinmn
11 years ago
They have it on there website.
Donald Silva
6 years ago
We’re doing Marvin Ultimates right now. I’d advise against doing a pocket installation, whichever window you choose. These are very high end windows and pocket installations do not address any issues that may have resulted from the previous windows. Installation is considerably more expensive, however, you end up with a much better result. Good luck!
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6 years ago
Well said about the installation details HomeSealed. Spot on.

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