Hey... I am very interested in your marquette and frontenac gris!!! Right now I have ~1000 traminette cuttings starting and 2000 Norton-Cynthiana that I just looked at today that have started to root!!! If there is anyway that we can set up a trade it would be much appreciated. I can also get other verities because I work at a vineyard... mainly vingnols, seyval and much more! I must know soon though because they will be turned into mulch soon... Also I would like to know quantity! I would like as many as you can aquire. please specify how they were taken... E-mail me at menkedrew-at-yahoo.com

Thanks Murky & Fruitnut. Hopefully I'll be able to find Canadice & Swenson Red locally.

Depends on what types you want and maybe where you are in CA, but I see them all the time (bare-root) at Walmart, Home Depot, and Lowes. Also OSH, and I have seen them at Costco but that was ?last year or before? They're usually table grapes, but just recently I have seen wine grapes for sale in a 3-pack at w-mart and I have seen wine grapes at Home D. In fact, if you move quick, you may still be able to get bare-roots on clearance around now.... I bought my grapes at Home D-- I like Concord and Muscat, so thats what I bought, couple of plants each. I have heard that you can eat wine grapes, and since I live in "wine country" of course I considered it, but I bought what I know I like. Plus I think you can make wine from muscats...hehe... Some varieties need lots of heat, I think Thompson is one. I haven't had them long, about a year, and this depends on where you live, but here where I am in the SF bay area with "June gloom" they can be prone to fungal infections, so I need to be careful with pruning so that they are open for air circulation. Those Concords are supposed to be sensitive to anti-fungals like copper and sulfur so I am just gonna try to be careful. My dad grew grapes near here years ago and they did fine, I don't think they gave him much trouble. I have read that they prefer deep occasional irrigation and like hot dry summers, and for richest flavors they prefer hot days with lots of sun and cool nights, but I am not sure if that is wine-grape thing only or not. I just try maintain the Mediterranean-type climate for them with a some summer water. I also try to give them a little bit of a balanced all-purpose fertilizer but that is just instinct and not education or experience on my part. I don't otherwise pay much attention to them. Isn't there a grape forum? Or is it just wine... I love grapes on a patio cover or pergola...the Huntington Gardens in Pasadena has a lovely one with clusters of green grapes hanging down. HTH.

I don't know the first thing about VC that is why I was snooping around here today. Funny thing that caused me to do this is that about 1 month ago I too had about 20 pounds of grape must. I dug a hole in my raised bed & threw the musts in there & covered with soil. This particular area stays fairly wet as I am always dumping my dog's water bowl in there 3 times per day. Yesterday I was getting the bed ready for winter veggies & when I dug up the area where the grape musts were buried WOW! worms! hundreds of them in just one shovel turn. They were red in color. I quickly turned them back over to the way they were. I figured they must be good for the soil. Hence my sudden interest in worm composting.