Okay, this has been making me crazy, so I finally just printed two copies, cut out everything with scissors, and slid everything around until I came up with something I could live with. So, sorry about the poor cut & paste job! I really, really liked the built-in seating area that someone posted on a previous post, so I started with that. Also, I am a zone person, so I'm looking for a storage zone, prep zone, cook zone, serve out and dirty dishes back. Also, I look for a "drop zone" for the fridge, freezer and pantry as you collect ingredients. The most recent picture (unless someone posts while I messing with this) has these 3 storage spots all over the kitchen and NONE have a drop zone, so you'll be carrying stuff everywhere. I also didn't want to forget that you mentioned that this was a secondary eating area and your family mostly ate in the dining room, so I wanted a clear path to serve out hot food and bring back dirty dishes. I liked the open W/D area and fiddled with putting in a pocket or sliding barn door to block it off, but I just couldn't get you a good prep area without that side. So my plan has your cold and dry storage both in a reasonable drop to your prep, then access to your cook, which has access to serving, which is in a clear path to either table. Fridge/freezer not buried in the kitchen so kids can get in and out with ice and drinks. Clear spot to dump dirty dishes (mine has tupperware underneath for saving leftovers), then DW near to dish storage, which needs to be near (under and above) serve-out. Hope this all makes sense; I'm rambling now. Measurements might not work out so well, but maybe this will give you a whole other game plan to think about. Probably want to slide the prep sink so that your pantry has a better drop zone, but not too much. Your main sink cut out really big and I don't know if you mean to have a sink that's 3' wide - I don't think your kitchen is going to be big enough to swing it and not sure why anyone would need it unless you're going to stack your dishes inside. (Also note that I didn't move any of the windows, forgot which ones move and which ones don't) Anyway, I'll keep watching a looking forward to seeing your eventual outcome! From Drop Box

I like it Deedles. Thank you. I had actually been trying to figure out a way to get more bench space and to have the bench be an "L". Is the powder room too tiny though? I think it will be about 36"x 77". I noticed that you just revealed a lovely little powder room. Do you mind me asking its dimensions? Another concern I have is the venting of the dryer. In the original drawings I would pull the sink forward to create a box for the vent pipe and use the other space as storage. If I go with the way you have it drawn I guess I would bring the vent pipe up to the ceiling and box it in.

The spacing between the counter top and the base of the upper cabinets in my kitchen is 15" However, there is another inch inside the base to allow for hidden undercabinet lighting. We have 2" between the floor and the base of the bottom cabinets. Basically you can place the toe of your shoe under the cabinet. We also have a 6" soffit over the top of our upper cabinets allowing for these cabinets to be about 39" tall.

mrspete, if I do the wall behind the tub or the wall at the end of the tub, it will be clearly visible when you enter the room. The vanity wall is on the same wall as the entry door, so not so much. And I do want the tile to make a statement, but not be overwhelming, and not look like we were just trying to "fit it in" somewhere. Its a tough line to walk, for sure, and I am not the artistic type so I have a great deal of difficulty visualizing things. BTW, this tile is $45 a sq ft I think, not cheap but a lot less than some similar mosaics I saw and liked that were $100 +. Nevertheless, given that I seem to have very expensive taste, budget may be a factor. nancyinmich, your comments really have me thinking. You sound like you definitely have a good sense of design! I will see if I can do a mock up somehow to see how it looks. But I'm really not sure about the backsplash, only because I want the counter and backsplash to be easy to keep clean. The uneven texture of the mosaic and all that grout gives me the hebejebees. And I somehow feel like it would be better viewed from a distance. FYI, I am planning on wall mounted faucets. More $$$4 ;-).