RECIPE: why do diabetic desserts have all that sugar?

21 years ago

My DH was diagnosed with diabetes about4-5 years ago. It's funny how a man who never had much of a yen for sweets for most of his life suddenly started asking for dessert when he was supposed to stay away from sugar.

I found over and over that diabetic dessert recipies usually cut the fat and left the sugar in. Low carb recipies took out the sugar and used a lot of fat, or sugar free jello. DH let me know pretty fast that a man can take just so much mousse and jello.

I wound up having to make up my own recipies, some things have worked well, others...eh.

A few tips for any who are trying to adapt cake recipies to low sugar or sugar free.

I read a comparison of sugar substitutes when used in baking. SUGAR TWIN won in taste tests when used in baking cakes, even when the same people hated the taste of it in their drinks.

When baking a cake, I found that usually throwing in an extra beaten egg white to the recipe makes the cake lighter in texture. When you cut the sugar and substitute artificial sweetners, the cakes tend to get hard and heavy.

I've also learned that if you use even just 1 or 2 tbl of sugar when beating eggs or egg whites it makes a HUGE difference in texture, much more like a REAL cake.

I've also tried the half and half mixing of Splenda and sugar a couple of times and it turned out ok, but DH always nags me....is there any sugar in this?

By the way, he's been well within normal healthy numbers for the past 3 years.

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grainlady_ks

20 years ago

Sugar, as long as you count it for the total amount of carbohydrates is acceptable to use (in small amounts) for many diabetics. And moderation is always best with any high-glycemic food/ingredient. Sugar raises blood sugar as much as white flour, and most diabetics don't quit consuming white flour and there are many better alternatives to white flour.

I've used a low-glycemic, diabetic-friendly sweetener called Agave Nectar for many years now and use it in all my baking. This sweetener is natural and looks and tastes like a mild honey. I avoid chemical, no-calorie, sweeteners. I had a friend nearly die from unknowingly eating ice cream containing Splenda, and another friends grown twin daughters had vision problems from eating Nutrisweet.

Here's a little snack cake recipe I make for diabetic friends/family that they all love. It's the old dump-cake recipe with ingredients that are diabetic-friendly.

Wacky Cake
1-1/2 c. soft white whole wheat flour (I mill my own flour, but you can use whole wheat pastry flour found at most health food stores.)
1 t. soda
1/2 t. salt
3 T. cocoa powder (omit if you want a plain cake)
1 T. vinegar
2 t. vanilla
5 T. butter, melted
2/3 c. agave nectar
1/3 c. cold water

Mix ingredients in an 8" square pan in this order:

Combine all dry ingredients and mix well. Make 3 holes evenly spaced apart in dry ingredients. In first hole, put vinegar, in second hole, the vanilla and third hole, melted butter. Then pour agave nectar and water over all. Mix, using a dinner fork (be sure no dry ingredients remain in corners.

Bake in a 325Â°F preheated oven for 30-35 minutes.

For spice cake - omit cocoa and add 1/2 t. Penzey's Cake Spice or a combination of cinnamon and/or nutmeg. You could also add walnuts, pecans, unsweetened coconut, a small amount of mini-chocolate chips... Lots of ways to make this cake different each time it's made.

Please note - cut the cake into 16 pieces and a serving is one piece.

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The next time I make this cake I'm going to use 1/2 c. coconut flour because it is very low-carb and high-fiber which makes it an excellent flour for diabetics. It is my opinion that most people with blood glucose concerns don't take advantage of lots of ingredients that would make their food much lower on the glycemic index.

Grainlady

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gandbb
20 years ago
My dessert of choice is Nestles Double Fudge frozen pop made with Splenda. I am eating one as I type.

I don't understand most foods that are labeled for diabetics. I can't manage my blood sugar with more than 15 carbs at a meal unless the fiber content is super high. Is your husband managing with just diet and exercise or does he take pills or shots?
aprilwhirlwind
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20 years ago
Just diet and exercise, no pills. He eats low carb as much as he can.
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Furthermore, beware of the commercially prepared sugar-free products. Most of them contain Sorbitol which is sugar alcohol (but doesn't contain alcohol). It is a carb and a different kind of sugar but still, it is sugar. Everything that ends with -ol is sugar alcohol and a big no-no for the diabetics.

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vintageseller
11 years ago
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Ingredients:

- 1/2 cup all-purpose flour

- 1 teaspoon baking soda

- 2 cups wheat brean cereal

- 1 cup buttermilk

- 1/4 cup margarine, melted

- 1 egg, slightly beaten

- 1/4 cup raisins

- Liquid sugar substitute of your choice to equal 1/4 cup sugar

- Cooking spray

1. Combine flour & soda in a medium bowl; add bran cereal.

2. Combine buttermilk, margarine, sugar substitute, and egg; add to dry ingredients; stir until moistened. Fold in raisins.

3. Spoon batter into muffin pans coated with cooking spray. Fill them 2/3 full.

4. Bake at 400 degrees for about 20 min or until slightly browned

Yield: 1 dozen muffins. Serving Size: 1 muffin. Carbs: 14g or 1 carb per serving size.

Enjoy.
cpartist
9 years ago
I wound up with frozen shoulders because of nutrasweet. I have type 2 and have found that eating in moderation, and avoiding all fake sugars have kept my levels better than when I used to use the artificial crap. Now I use either pure maple syrup or agave for my coffee.
lovemrmewey
9 years ago
vintageseller, we saw a dietician when my husband was found to be diabetic and he could have 60 carbs a meal, 15 carbs a snack. 4 carbs would hardly be a 1/4 apple! Are we talking about the same definition of a carb?
Anna Michelle
9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
My dietician said that the rule of the thumb is to have 3-4 carbs per meal and 2 carbs per snack. This works for me; my A1C went down from 6.5 at being diagnosed to 6.0 just a few days ago. Woohoo! (doing a happy dance)

1 carb = 15g

@lovemrmewey, I think you must be talking about grams rather than carbs. If 1 carb = 15g, then 60 carbs = 900 grams, wow! Please advise
wekick
9 years ago
Always check your blood sugar after you eat carbs and see if it spikes. If it spikes, it is damaging no matter who told you it was OK to eat it.
Anna Michelle
9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Who told you to check postprandial sugar? Not your doctor, I bet. I personally don't check it. I do fasting sugar only, and even then, not every day. I am not going to go paranoid to check it after each meal; I think this is an overkill.

The rule of thumb is to eat carbs in moderation and avoid simple sugars. This works for me as my last A1C was 6.0, down from 6.5 when I was first diagnosed.

Back in the day, when I worked in the hospital, we only checked BG before meals, even on the Intensive Care Unit. No one checks it after meals with the only exception if a patient had to be given orange juice because they were low.

Blood sugar can spike for a wide variety of reason. Such as if you didn't get enough sleep, if you're in pain, if the weather changes (atmospheric pressure), if you experience anxiety, if your strips are bad for some reason ... and I believe this isn't a full list. Again, individual spikes won't do a damage but a longevity of your diabetes does.

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