Frameless Cabinets: Ultracraft vs Innermost vs Dewils vs Custom
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Comments (3)I am in the process of having my Dura Supreme Alectra (frameless) cabinets installed. They look beautiful, and the quality was as good or better than any cabinet I considered. If you have any specific questions, I'll be happy to answer you....See MoreFrameless vs frames
Comments (35)Frameless can have either an mdf, aka "furniture board", box or a plywood box. In either case, a skin of nice hardwood is veneered over the core. The eco part of this is that more rare and valuable trees can be stretched to cover a lot of kitchen cabinets and make them look terrific. According to my Furniture and Cabinet Making teacher, the reason they started doing this in Europe was because they don't have as many trees as they did in the days of Hansel and Gretel, so they devised this way of making the good stuff go further. Framed cabinetry is essentially the same as far as materials go - few are made with solid wood boxes. They use a little more wood to build the frames themselves. On the eco-friendly question, that's hard to say. MDF uses what is essentially scrap fiber mixed with resin and formed under high pressure. So fewer trees are cut down, but then there is the resin and the power to supply the necessary high pressure. Plywood is made from thin sheets of common wood veneer glued together, so there is the glue question and it must require pressure to insure that all the glued layers stick together properly. Both kinds require transport to the fabrication site and then to the cabinet maker's site, and then to you, so that's a lot of lifting and fuel. In the end, I'm sorry to say, I decided not to think about it too hard....See MoreExecutive vs. Ultracraft vs. Plato - which frameless custom color
Comments (5)We just installed Ultracraft cabinets in a medium tone cherry-haven't used it yet as the rest of the kitchen is getting done. Pros: Love the finish. It is matte and not shiny. and as far as I can tell, the wood quality is great. It came packaged beautifully. No blemishes at all in our small order (15+ cabinets +trim). Turn around time was also great (5-6 weeks). You can also customize heights and widths at no extra charge. So we were able to utilize every little bit of our small space. Cons: They are $$ especially compared to Innermost or Holiday line of frameless cabinets. The plywood bottoms on their drawer stacks are 1/4" only irrespective of the width. They are fully captured bottoms though ( their terminology not mine, ha ha!). I am a little skeptical about loading up my pots and pans in them but have been assured by KD that if there should ever be a problem, Ultracraft will stand behind their product. Let me know if you would like any other specific info. I am not familiar with the other lines that you mention. I would suggest you do a comparison on each feature. I actually made an excel sheet and compared every manufacturer that I was interested in....See MoreHome Depot cabinets vs. custom?
Comments (9)Neither of those are custom--you should talk to an actual custom cabinetmaker too. Look at the guts and build quality of the particular cabinets. There will be a difference between the two lines you're looking at. But is the difference worth that much? Depends on you. The HD cabinets you're looking at are serviceable but I don't think they are in the same ballpark quality-wise as Fieldstone. A few other things. The KD you're using will probably be a lot more helpful getting the project done since she is used to working with your contractor. That can be valuable. And as she HAS worked with you already, you have gotten some services from her that she won't get paid for, so be willing to pay a smidge more just for that. If she's been good to work with, see what she can do to bring the price down--maybe a less expensive cabinet line or something?...See MoreUser
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