Roofing question...shallow pitch underlayment question.
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Need roofing advice - PLEASE!!
Comments (11)Not a roofer, either, but I do have the care of one large house and six two-story barns, all with 150 year-old slates roofs in a very challenging northern climate. I see you're in NY, so I trust you haven't actually torn off your roof, yet. Take a breath, this has been an unusually nasty winter, and while you may wind up removing the roof down to the (or including) sheathing, it may not turn out to be necessary. To begin, please, understand that there are as many Absolute Truths about roof care and maintenance, as there are licensed roofers. (More actually, because there are a lot of unlicensed roofers - and opinionated amateurs, like me- and they/we definitely have their/our own theories, as well!) Can you find out from the previous owners or from examining the water stains or asking neighbors, is this a new problem, or regular winter carnival-type event? (I'm not trying to make a joke at your expense, but ya gotta keep your sense of humor when dealing with roof leaks. I know that from hard experience.) If this is an unusual year, then I wouldn't jump into tearing the roof off, if it is otherwise in good shape. Since you have a modern material (Tamko) your experience may be different from mine. But perhaps it will help you to know that I have no felt, no shield, no drip edge, spotty guttering, no ridge vent or any of the other must-haves you're being offered; some years I have minor problems with ice dams, and most years, I don't. The reason for this is that ice dams are believed to be caused by factors other than the roof and its attendant components. One of those factors is the vagaries of weather, of course. Another is heat escaping up through the house's walls and creating the ice dam, that blocks the water, that then backs up until it finds a likely crevice and becomes a leak. Unless your roof also leaks every time it rains heavily in the summer, then repairs or modifications to the roof are all aimed at treating a symptom (water unable to run down off the roof and finding its way where it ought not be) rather the root cause of the ice dams - the build-up of an ice blob in the winter which blocks the water from running down the roof like it does in the summer. It might be possible to have nearly all the things that are being recommended to you and still have water damage from an ice dam. First of all, how old is your house? What's your roof like - steep, flattish, hip? How many stories? What style is your house? (Can't imagine how wrapping ice shield or drip edge or other flashing around the fascia boards would look....!) What's the state of your wall and/or attic insulation? You sound quite worried and fussed. Can't blame you and I'm sorry for it. I expect you'll figure out what needs to be done and it may not be as bad as you fear. A beginning resource would be to contact the Tamko people and/or your builder if the house isn't very old and get their opinions about what to do. They may offer some useful suggestions. You also could do some research here and elsewhere on the web about ice dams. And bear in mind the suggestions of the other posters about licensing, insurance and dumping permits, etc. There are a lot of opportunities to make the problem worse rather than better; and roofing repairs, even the cheapest estimates, are not inexpensive. I'm sure others will chime in, and when we have more info, be able to offer some additional suggestions that may be helpful. If you've had a lot of damage, you might check your homeowner's policy ...... Also, if you have additional heavy snow, is it possible to have the lower portion of the roof raked before the snow has a chance to make a pest of itself? This is a hard job (and can be dangerous), so don't undertake it lightly. Sometimes you can hire roofing companies to come and rake during the winter. Providing they don't damage the roofing, this would be fine....See MoreTongue and groove over a waterproof plywood underlayment
Comments (12)This "tuff rubber " product is unknown to me as a membrane they do make boots I have used. Your pictures show something already on the plywood. If this were my job to bid >>> Torchdown modified or cpo roof over the plywood, ground contact pt stringers laying in the direction of the flow, screw the decking to the stringers not past them into the roof. Do not fasten the T&G decking with a nailer. Using Construstion adhesive on the joists and stainles steel screws run the screw thru the G. Do not place this decking the same way you would fasten a floor inside your house. Reread. Again. One More Time. Request your Roofer Contractor flash and roof over any drain holes you cut in that plywood. The drain system you are thinking about is flawed. Data,you might just have come to the right place your total plan will come back to bite you really hard in a short time. John Hyatt www.deckmastersllc.com...See MoreQuestions on 'torch-down' roofs.
Comments (10)EPDM roofing for a smaller area will have only factory seams in the piece used, plus whatever cuts you have to make for things sticking through the roof. The life of EPDM is at least 30-40 years. There is no real supply of EPDM for the home market in the US (Firestone is a large manufacturer but could care less about residential work). Find a well recommended local installer and talk with them. If you are interested in trying the job yourself Resource Conservation Technology (Baltimore, MD) used to do turn key 'kits' based on dimensions and sketches. They supplied a piece of membrane made with hold down tabs on the back, and the rest of the items required to secure the edges. Flat Roof Solutions also sells everything you need and will help you decide what to order and how to do the job. They sell pieces of EPDM by size. You get a pieces large enough for the roof without any seams and cut it down as needed....See MoreRoofing bid questions
Comments (13)Oh my gosh. What a mess! Let me make sure I have explained the roof inside another roof problem. 1. There are two layers of shingles on the one story house and two story garage. They will remove both. 2. The second story only has one roof or attic. 3. The main house has one shallow pitched roof plus a higher roof over it. You can climb up in the attic under the original roof AND climb on top of the original wood shingles. You can look up and see the inside roof of the second roof. It looks like they nailed to the original rafters and made the add on a higher pitch. Then they put a 30' beam in. I wish I could take a picture. 4. So with this information are you telling me the roofer should have gone inside the attic to look at it? 5. Am I right in thinking that the insurance will only pay for the underlayment up to the shingles? Then I would have to pay for all new trusses/rafters/decking? 6. Are you telling me that the "entire" roof has to come off? I will see the sky? 7. How much more would the cost be to totally redo the roof? (If I have to remove the whole thing.) I can see how the two architectural roofs would put a lot of weight on the foundations and walls. That would be my luck.....remodel the kitchen and the house falls down! (my husband hates flying on an airplane with me. He says that I have horrible luck and he shouldn't ride in the same plane.) I think I have a headache. Thanks for your help. I hope I explained it better. You guys probably understood, but I am not sure about my explanation and use of roofing terminology. Peke...See Morefamous_world
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