Unbelievable high-end Ikea kitchen (and how to paint Ikea cabs)
Stacey Collins
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Beds, again. High end custom or IKEA?
Comments (33)This is funny you posted this, because I was wondering today if an ikea bed would work in the guest room. I think I decided against it for now. I dont know anything about MASH but I did consider their beds before I bought mine from dwr. I like that bed in your photo. Where I live, there are scorpions and centipedes and I wanted a bed with little surface area touching the ground. I have the dwr modern bed in walnut and really like it. I got it at their semiannual sale for 15% plus free in home delivery. I think they have a couple storage options also. You probably already considered dwr, but just in case... http://www.dwr.com/category/bedroom/beds.do Here's another link, to hive modern: http://hivemodern.com/pages/category123/beds I dont think I would spend 5k for a bed unless it included the mattress. I really do like that bed you posted sochi. It seems like it would work for your new house....See MoreThose using IKEA cabs: how did you upgrade the look?
Comments (35)Dawn, I was just admiring your kitchen plan, and I noticed something on it you may want to double-check. If you are planning on doing IKEA doors (didn't you say Lidingo?), I am fairly certain that the 3-drawer base does not come in 24", and the corner cabinet does not [yet] have a glass door, though I believe I read that there will be one in the future, and that can always be changed out. (A very nice thing about IKEA cabs!) Anyway, I just wanted to pass that info on to you....See MoreAre IKEA cabs wood or other?
Comments (32)>>A local "green" cabinet builder cites: "particleboard will deteriorate when exposed to water, it is more susceptible we use to dents and tends to sag when carrying weight long-term. As a result, she says, cabinets made with particleboard won't hold up as well to the wear-and-tear commonly experienced by kitchen cabinetry, and may have to be replaced sooner". I beg to differ with this statement. As I and others have pointed out before, it is the QUALITY of each and every material used in cabinet construction (or any carpentry) that matters. No manufacturer I know of uses particleboard for kitchen cabinets without applying a veneer of some sort. It may be wood, or laminate, or melamine - and what matters is the quality level of that veneer. Not all veneers are the same in quality and durability, any more than flooring materials are, or even plywood for that matter. I have Kraftmaid frameless cabs bought in 1989 and thoroughly and totally tested in a hard-usage environment - I love to cook and I don't baby anything I own. I bang pots around, slam and lean on cab doors with all my 200-plus pounds...basically giving them no mercy. I adore these cabs, with high-density particleboard cores, laminate exterior and high-quality melamine interior. I put dishes away soaking wet without a qualm. Everything cleans with a green scrubbie and a spritz of Windex. We had a six month-long slow leak in the sink cab and there was no substrate damage at all, just a very slight bubble to the melamine interior. One of my Lazy Susan base cabs had a loosening hinge on the bi-fold door. I'd always thought particleboard couldn't be redrilled - wrong! My handyman filled it with quick-setting epoxy, redrilled the hole, and it's been fine ever since (going on over 4 yrs now). No shelves have bowed - I have lots of experience with particleboard, since we own thousands of books and every single one of our 24 full-height 36" wide bookcases are made of the stuff, either veneered or just painted. Some of the bookcases are thirty-five years old and have been moved six times now (and also gone through two earthquakes). They are also loaded with art books weighing up to 85 lbs per shelf and can handle it without bowing - the trick with particleboard is to not exceed 32" in width without center support. High-density particleboard, when properly veneered or painted, is just as durable as 3/4" plywood. But it IS heavier, definitely not as easy to shove around or move by yourself. We have bathroom cabs made of 1/2" plywood billed as "all wood" - the stuff is flimsy, wobbly and hideous. I'll take high-quality particleboard with a good veneer any day, and know that it will last many decades without any more need for care than an "all wood" cabinet does. And please, I don't believe the inference that particleboard falls apart in water but plywood does not. I've watched plenty of interior plywood scraps disintegrate in the sun and rain - they simply delaminate, and turn into thin crispy layers that can be broken apart with your fingers. Oh, and my painted particleboard cabs? They are painted with latex paint, and I scrub fingerprints and dirt off with a wet sponge - no problems. Only marine-grade plywood can withstand water, and no company, big or small, makes cabs out of that stuff! This is the reason, BTW, that all flooring mfgs now require this stuff to be used as subflooring or you will void your warranty (something DIYers need to be aware of); they know regular plywood does not stand up to water and thus changed their warranty language to specifically exclude it....See MoreIKEA cabs above 48" W Subzero
Comments (10)How far below your ceiling is your run of planned upper cabinets? If you have 34" north of the fridge, you could hang two 24" wide base cabinets over top of it. I guess another option might be building a short soffit where cabinet over the refrigerator needs to go, in order to bump stardard upper cabinets forward. It is possible to hack cabinets to different sizes, but if you want ikea doors to fit, you'll still be constrained to the sizes of the ikea doors. If doors won't fit the custom boxes you need, so that you're using just the sektion "box," the box likely won't match the cabinets. It's also a less finished look. In that case it might look better to mount an open box made from wood and painted to match....See Moreformerlyflorantha
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