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Help with Door (Outward swinging, need screen)

14 years ago

Hi,

As a part of a remodel, we're having to replace a 6 foot slider with a single 36" door (exterior - all glass with just a frame) - which has an outswing and access to our deck (from the kitchen). Given that it is an outswinging door - I absolutely do not want to put a screen door on the interior (we're doing a kitchen remodel and this just wont do). We're hoping to find a solution to this problem.

Does there exist for example an exterior door (all glass)- where maybe there is a built in screen door (you know - like how there are windows with built in blinds :) ). I"ve been googling for days now - and one that I've found is something called "stoett retractable doors". No local dealers of course. Can somebody give me some input, guidance please? Thanks a lot!

Comments (3)

User
14 years ago
I installed a sliding screen on a flip house that retracted sideways into a spring loaded case that mounted to the side of the doorway. It had a top and bottom channel---meaning you had to step over the channel---kinmd of a pain. The screen also did not work very smoothly.

I can't see how the screens are made easily on the Stoett website---the vertcal ones seem difficult to operate to me.

I think the better solution is to see if the door can be done as an inswing and use a conventional screen door.

I wonder if a pocket type door could work? Thar would allow for a conventional screen door as well.
sierraeast
14 years ago
Phantom retractable screens. Here's the link:

Here is a link that might be useful: inswing/outswing retractables
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